cutting plus test?

[cryptick]

Doing a cutting cycle ( primo and deca) should i throw something like tren or similar to gain some more muscle? Or does anyone have an ideah of another stack that can give results of cutting and be able to stack some muscle too?

[johnnybigguns]

You should be doing test and not worring about everything else.
What's your age/weight/height/bf%/cycle history?

[cryptick]

I am trying to stay away from liver toxic products. Read Primobolan was very "kind" to the liver.Been training on and off for 13 years. I recently came off of a stack about 6 months ago of sustanon and dbol . Have done similar stacks every few years in the past. But this last cycle I tried something different and went for pure mass (diet wise) so i need to shed off some of the extra weight, but I would like to gain a little more muscle than just a cutting stack will provide.

Age:31
Weight:195
Bf: 16%
Cycle History: above ^^^

[busaboy27]

your inj.. not taking oral.. so liver not so much... your test levels are gone.. u need test..


how tall are you.... 16% is a little high with tath body fat those wont make you lose the weight your probably trying to do..

[cryptick]

Height:6'2
I was kinda highballing the fat% .. its only around the waist its hard for me to retain fat anywhere else. What test stack do you recommend for good lean muscle gains with fat burning properties. In the past always took bulking cycles then dieted to shed the excess weight. Of course with this cycle Im gonna keep a strict diet as not to bulk up.

[wullby]

can anyone tell me the best cycle to take with trem ?? am tryin to cut up but keep my strength !!

[busaboy27]

what are your previous cycles?

only steroids with fat burning properties are tren and anavar so on

cutting- winny,masteron and so on

its all in your diet..

[busaboy27]

can anyone tell me the best cycle to take with trem ?? am tryin to cut up but keep my strength !!

start a thread with all your stats...

[Phate]

Height:6'2
I was kinda highballing the fat% .. its only around the waist its hard for me to retain fat anywhere else. What test stack do you recommend for good lean muscle gains with fat burning properties. In the past always took bulking cycles then dieted to shed the excess weight. Of course with this cycle Im gonna keep a strict diet as not to bulk up.

bro, no offense but those stacks aren't very good at all for 13 years of training, in fact if you had asked about a first cycle with those stats i would have said you aren't ready, can we see a pic please?