1. curse

**Deadlifter888** · 05-22-2009, 01:34 AM

Hey guys,i wanted to get more info here.
IM going on my first curse ,and going to take sust250 on 8 week x1ml ampule per week....so question is ,,, +naposim 100tablets would be good together with sust250 for first curse?

**jbm** · 05-22-2009, 01:36 AM

Stats?
age?
height?
weight?
bodyfat%?
years training?

**Deadlifter888** · 05-22-2009, 01:41 AM

176cm,70kg ....19years and training 4 years in gym,,3years in powerlifting,,results was enough to ride world sub-jun champ 2008...cant say results without equippment atm...

**jbm** · 05-22-2009, 01:45 AM

Bro, 19 is still young for AAS... wait till you are at least 24.
70kg for your height is quite under weight for AAS.

One more thing sustanon is not for first cycle.
any planned PCT?

**Deadlifter888** · 05-22-2009, 01:52 AM

well,,,i hawe newer had problems with progress in results,,i hawe alweys progressed but reason why i want take smthing is becouse the dam mass inst going up...could eat damn MC.donald all day but still wont get up

-67.5kg i could do 200+ squat ,140kg b-press,200kg+deadlift...yes i hawe heard that sust isnt best for this years, but ALL roids isnt good to use in my years..doesnt really matter what i will use, but they all will close my orginal test lvl in body.(sry for bad eng)Whats yout suggestion then?

**jbm** · 05-22-2009, 02:01 AM

My suggestion is for you is to go, to diet forum and let them fix your diet for you to grow.
you must maximize your natural potential while you are young before using AAS.
Believe me all the vets here will tell you the same thing, DIET is the key as of now.

One more thing you must research more about Steroids on this sight. You got a lot more to learn about cycling.

This links might help you:
PCT start times
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758
Cycles for the Newbie
UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...

**Deadlifter888** · 05-22-2009, 02:11 AM

thx bro for suggestions,ill try read all it,,,,but wanted to let you know that i was interessted to go on roids only 1x year on summer...and if my raxture is so strong to not go in roids more then once in year,,,u still wont suggest sust?

i allrdy bought the stuff and so hard to say NO now :P

**jbm** · 05-22-2009, 02:15 AM

I know you will do it anyway so just read what I gave you, it will guide you.
don't use sust... just don't...
read test enanthate and cypoinate...
Most important your PCT...
It's all up to you. I hope you would listen to me not to cycle yet...

**Deadlifter888** · 05-22-2009, 02:21 AM

Allright i can drop the sust,but like 90% that i wont get stuff wat u suggested me,,So then what about pure naposim 100tabl for first time?(ofc +som protein )

**Deadlifter888** · 05-22-2009, 02:34 AM

Testosterone Enanthate or Testosterone Cypionate (12weeks) +Dianabol (4weeks)... So it looks like this for 1st time?

**DDDNTZ** · 05-22-2009, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by jbm

I know you will do it anyway so just read what I gave you, it will guide you.
don't use sust... just don't...
read test enanthate and cypoinate...
Most important your PCT...
It's all up to you. I hope you would listen to me not to cycle yet...

Look bro re-read this post and take it to heart. That is the BEST advice you can get from someone who has experience. And DO NOT just take the Dbol for a first cycle. I guarantee you will not be happy with the results. You will lose nearly all of your gains and it will kill your natural Testosterone production for a long time i.e. you will lose muscle and your dick wont do what it's supposed to do. Go to the diet forum and just keep lifting heavy ass weight. God luck bro

**DDDNTZ** · 05-22-2009, 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by Deadlifter888

Testosterone Enanthate or Testosterone Cypionate(12weeks) +Dianabol(4weeks)... So it looks like this for 1st time?

wait wait wait wait wait till you are at least 23-24yrs bro trust me!

**ottomaddox** · 05-22-2009, 02:39 AM

First time?, maybe if you were old enough. If you can't gain without steroids , what makes you think steroids are going to help you. Steroids are not your answer, it's Diet plain and simple.

Originally Posted by Deadlifter888

Testosterone Enanthate or Testosterone Cypionate(12weeks) +Dianabol(4weeks)... So it looks like this for 1st time?

**Deadlifter888** · 05-22-2009, 03:01 AM

After reading that diet tabule...well i will newer eat so correct to get each day correct kcal etc,,and my work wont let me eat at correct time so in my oppinion its still good if i will eat like a normal ppl 3x in day ,and not look what i will eat each time,,,just want to be sure,that my belly is full

,And im sure that i will grow more in mass naturaly in time ,,i just want take the stuff on summer to be better,,,and atm i want get more info what would be that,what could be best for my ages,to not f*** up all my natural growing...I will take somthing anyway ,so help in that if you can,,,,after JMB posts ,he washed my brains and i like 95% think that i wont take sust

**jbm** · 05-22-2009, 03:08 AM

Just fix your diet and train right! then cycle when you're at the right age...

**Deadlifter888** · 05-22-2009, 03:19 AM

That means only 1 thing,,,again need to drink dam crap things,,i will faster die from sickness from all theese Animal packs etc,,so dam bored from them...

**jbm** · 05-22-2009, 03:24 AM

No bro! you need to eat at least 6x a day for you to grow. even without supplements, as long as your diet is good you will grow!

**Deadlifter888** · 05-22-2009, 03:38 AM

6x in day?if SNICKER counts as 1x then maybe ,but otherwise its not possible for me

**jbm** · 05-22-2009, 03:50 AM

See bro that's the problem! Even if you do steroids without proper diet your cycle will be useless! without proper diet you will never appreciate steroids... believe me!
Your gains from AAS will depend on your food intake!

**Deadlifter888** · 05-22-2009, 04:11 AM

Probably,i just know peoples from my gym that use roids and same dont care about food,,they eat when they want, and what they want...But 1 thing true,,all are older then me