my own thread

[FirstTimer101]

im new to this, i was wondering if liqui-test is somthin i should start with, im 24 never done anything like this, but i want more size and to get leaner and i cant seem to do it natural i have equidrene also any suggestions?????

[NauticTL]

Height, weight, bf, diet? I bet you 500 dollars your diet is shit.

[Papa Smurf]

Would you like fries with your first thread?
Please take the time and read this entire forum.

[c-Z]

Sure your body will only hold so much natural weight..... but like stated I bet the diet is garbage......... Stats and you will be on your way to to getting BIG brotha.

And as my man eroc said..... Please take time to read. Don't expect us to do everything for you...Do you know what PCT, AI's and all that fun stuff is?

[T-MOS]

^^^ you guys are good, i almost don't need to be here....lolol

[-Ender-]

How many french fries should he eat a day?

[FirstTimer101]

yea diet is shit ive went down hill since got out of school, but what about the ? i had about liqui test and equidrene ? i want more mass and i dont like fries! im 6'3 230
and im tryin to find the diet section.... having trouble navigating

[*RAGE*]

yea diet is shit ive went down hill since got out of school, but what about the ? i had about liqui test and equidrene ? i want more mass and i dont like fries! im 6'3 230

I would advice reading about cycles, PCT's, diets, and workouts before you do anything bro, I love fries, just cant eat none because I am fat from liquid test......lol JK but please read first then ask question and we will help you get in the right direction, remember you have one body and one life to live, so dont jump infront of the train tracks before looking both ways it is the same here....

[sigman roid]

as you just admitted your diet is rubbish thats where your problem is, doing steroids and having a bad diet will not work. you will not get what you want from doing a cycle while your diet is bad its a waste of time and money

[FirstTimer101]

yea dude , i just did some reading here in your alls forum and theres loads of info!.b4 i just had some ?'s about the products i have currently liquitest and equidrene,. really im just looking for a fast way to drop some flab, i run every morn and work out quite literally all the time but the love handles just wont drop, of late i have started lifting heavier and the mass is coming but the flab wont get gone, ... diet yea ok i can change that but how can i get some quick results on the appearance? like i said im tired of cardio but i stay consistent with it, any help???

[*RAGE*]

Post your diet here or in the diet forum and lets see what we are working with...then post you cardio program as well

[FirstTimer101]

i dont have a hardcore diet like what you all have posted,
morning, cereal 2%milk most of the time corn flakes no sugar maybe with a little fruit
no snacks b4 lunch
Lunch , sandwich or salad i do eat take out or somthing quick from subway(my downside_)
dinner , whatever wife cooks, no fried foods
i do hit mickey d's for a shake everyonce in a while but not alot of junk food

Cardio
of late, jogging or runnign til im sick lol dont know if thats good or not but setting a distance doesnt seem to help i can go farther some days some days i cant .

thanks for all the help!

[eatrainrest]

i dont have a hardcore diet like what you all have posted,
morning, cereal 2%milk most of the time corn flakes no sugar maybe with a little fruit
no snacks b4 lunch
Lunch , sandwich or salad i do eat take out or somthing quick from subway(my downside_)
dinner , whatever wife cooks, no fried foods
i do hit mickey d's for a shake everyonce in a while but not alot of junk food

Cardio
of late, jogging or runnign til im sick lol dont know if thats good or not but setting a distance doesnt seem to help i can go farther some days some days i cant .

thanks for all the help!

oh no..... check out these links... like now and then go to the diet forum.. soak it up
ALL LINKS, ID WATCH THEM IN ORDER MAKE SURE TO WATCH ALL THE VIDS IN THE 1ST!
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323516 ** WATCH ALL DVD VIDEOS FIRST!
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=384395 BMR CALCULATIONS
those 2 links are the basis of what you need right now, come back with goals, proposed diet with macros (pro, carbs,fat) of all foods, meals, day along with calories. then post up your BMR and your CURRENT diet and that is what we need for a proper critiqe. GL

hers some cardio stuff you need
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=384553 CARDIO AND HR

[TRT,MAN]

best way i can explain it bro is you know how your liffting now and gaining some size but flab too. and your natty. same diffrence do some aas and you will gain size and fat plus some sides to go along with it.

[*RAGE*]

i dont have a hardcore diet like what you all have posted,
morning, cereal 2%milk most of the time corn flakes no sugar maybe with a little fruit
no snacks b4 lunch
Lunch , sandwich or salad i do eat take out or somthing quick from subway(my downside_)
dinner , whatever wife cooks, no fried foods
i do hit mickey d's for a shake everyonce in a while but not alot of junk food

Cardio
of late, jogging or runnign til im sick lol dont know if thats good or not but setting a distance doesnt seem to help i can go farther some days some days i cant .

thanks for all the help!

ok, i am not the best one on diets we have some really good guys here for that but you just need a start right now....cardio does not need to be about distance but more about time and your heart rate....

diet you need to eat six to eight times a day, now how do you do this make you meals in one day and keep them in the frig....and take them to work with you you need right now about 2000 to 2500 cals a day and you need to intake lean protein, complex carbs, and healthy fats, you should be getting 40%protein 40% carbs and 20% fat.....now lets look at what you can eat

Proteins

Chicken breast
Turkey breast
Lean ground turkey
Swordfish
Orange roughy
Haddock
Salmon
Tuna
Crab
Lobster
Shrimp
Top round steak
Top sirloin steak
Lean ground beef
Buffalo
Lean ham
Egg whites or substitutes
Trout
Low-fat cottage cheese
Wild-game meat

Vegetables

Broccoli
Asparagus
Lettuce
Carrots
Cauliflower
Green beans
Green peppers
Mushrooms
Spinach
Tomato
Peas
Brussels sprouts
Artichoke
Cabbage
Celery
Zucchini
Cucumber
Onion

Fats

Avocado
Sunflower seeds
Pumpkin seeds
Cold-water fish
Natural peanut butter
Low-sodium nuts
Olives and olive oil
Safflower oil
Canola oil
Sunflower oil
Flax seed oil

Carbohydrates

Baked potato
Sweet potato
Yams
Squash
Pumpkin
Steamed brown rice
Steamed wild rice
Pasta
Oatmeal
Barley
Beans
Kidney beans
Corn
Strawberries
Melon
Apple
Orange
Fat-free yogurt
Whole-wheat bread
High-fiber cereal
Whole-wheat Tortilla
Whole grains

Vegetarian Proteins

Tempeh
Seitan
Tofu
Texturized vegetable protein
Soy foods
Veggie burgers

Fats to Avoid

Butter
Fried foods
Mayonnaise
Sweets
Whole-fat dairy products



ok bro pick one from each group and put it together and make one meal and do that five more times and you have your six meal for the day continue for the week then you have your weekly plan....

Post workout shake should not be counted as a meal but should be taken within the first 15 to 30 mins after your workout....you do this and you will grow and grow and get lean....hope this helps like I said I am not good enough to write out a complet diet for you but if you go to the diet forum they can and will help you bro...good luck..

[*RAGE*]

1 Protein
Choose a portion of lean protein
Chicken breast
Ground turkey
Fish
Steak


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2 Carbohydrates
Choose a portion of complex carbohydrates
Small baked potato
Sweet potato
½ cup of brown rice
2 slices of whole-wheat bread



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3 Vegetables
Add a portion of vegetables to at least two meals each day
Broccoli
Asparagus
Lettuce
Carrots


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4 Essential fats
Consume one tablespoon of unsaturated oil daily or three portions of salmon per week
Avocado
Sunflower seeds
Cold-water fish
Natural peanut butter

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5 Water
Drink at least 10 glasses of water each day.
Drink a glass of water with every meal and during workouts.

[FirstTimer101]

dude my bmr is 3599?? wow! and i really appreciate the help. im a racecar driver and i am to proud to get a trainer, i stay on the road half the year... its hard for me to go in and just have help there , i really appreciate it

[*RAGE*]

dude my bmr is 3599?? wow! and i really appreciate the help. im a racecar driver and i am to proud to get a trainer, i stay on the road half the year... its hard for me to go in and just have help there , i really appreciate it

Kool dude get the weight down, you have all the time in the world I am in my 40's and will be starting my next cycle monday...which is tomorrow...lol time goes by fast...

[FirstTimer101]

so theres nothin you could suggest that would speed up the whol fat loss thing?

[eatrainrest]

first timer, head to the diet forum after the vids and all the instructions i gave in the first post... well take care of you over there

[eatrainrest]

prone gave you good shit to choose off from, some of those things you will want to incorporate in your overall diet, good stuff prone.

[FirstTimer101]

yea im gonna try everything that has been suggested. im just tryin nto rush it . oh and does this hydroxy cut shit work?

[NauticTL]

Where's my 500 dollaz?

[FirstTimer101]

shit what do i look like? ATM?