Noob! need guidence

[Expedia.cooom]

Age -25
Height -5'11"
Weight -187
Training- 1.5 hours boxing-cardio, 1.5 hours weights mon-fri.
BF% - ?

I am already in decent shape just want to add a few pounds of muscle and get more definition,I have winny tabs 20mgs x100 was gonna do 40mg/day for 5-6 weeks then 20mg/day for 1-2 weeks to come off of it, then run nolva for 4 weeks 20/20/10/10, the company name is xxxxxxx, winn is a blue circle with an "n" on it and a small line underneath it. My main concern is developing gyno or shutting down, I have done lots of researching for the past two months and still feel a bit unsure of what i'm doing, which is why I am here, I have been told to mix winn with a test, but I don't want to pin. I will be taking milk thistle and a liver flush as well as ***** 3-6-9 oil. Any advise would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

If your not ready for needles, your not ready for steroids.
Your just going to be cutting yourself short bro.

[stpete]

^^^^ Agreed

[Expedia.cooom]

So there is no alternative? would i get any gains or definition from that cycle, and what are the risks/preventatives of it.

[T-MOS]

Winny WILL shut down your natural test production

NOT GOOD !!!!

[Expedia.cooom]

So since i already have the winny what woould be a good cycle for me? just add test? and arimidex?

[T-MOS]

a single ester test for 12 weeks then add the winny in for the last 4 weeks plus two weeks after done with test, right up to start of PCT

Do you know what PCT is?

[Expedia.cooom]

PCT is post cycle treatment, Nolvadex. so i would run single ester test for 12 weeks then stop and start the winstrol for 4 weeks than stop and run the test for 2 more weeks? then run Nolvadex? Does using the test before the winstrol prevent me from shutting down? And i am sorry in advance i have many questions... i dont want to just jump into anything i want to take my time and do it right.

[T-MOS]

PCT is post cycle treatment, Nolvadex. so i would run single ester test for 12 weeks then stop and start the winstrol for 4 weeks than stop and run the test for 2 more weeks? then run Nolvadex? Does using the test before the winstrol prevent me from shutting down? And i am sorry in advance i have many questions... i dont want to just jump into anything i want to take my time and do it right.

No NO NO !!!!!

Weeks 1-12 Test E @ 500 mgs/week
Weeks 9-14 Winny @ 50 mgs/ED

PCT starts beginning of week 15

nolvadex AND clomid

you may want an AI for during the cycle

There is MORE to this than just taking a steroid.....YOU need to do a ton of research here

NO the test doesn't stop you from being shut down, it helps replace what you lose FROM being shut down

[sigman roid]

PCT is post cycle treatment, Nolvadex. so i would run single ester test for 12 weeks then stop and start the winstrol for 4 weeks than stop and run the test for 2 more weeks? then run Nolvadex? Does using the test before the winstrol prevent me from shutting down? And i am sorry in advance i have many questions... i dont want to just jump into anything i want to take my time and do it right.

your not ready!!!

[getzwolez33]

If your not ready for needles, your not ready for steroids.
Your just going to be cutting yourself short bro.

agreed 100% / thread...

[amateur88]

please go away and do some research, come back when u actually have a small idea about steroids, pct and diet etc! you need to do your own research! dont just come here and ask questions!

[jbm]

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