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    Very confused 1st stack !*!*!

    Hey folks,

    New to the forum, so first things first:

    Age: 25

    Height: 5"8

    Weight: 168lbs / 12 stone

    Years Training: Have trained since age of 14, not continuously weights but always some form of exercise

    Body Fat %: around 15%

    Reason im confused is:

    I play soccer semi professionally and can never seem to shift some excess fat. I tried a cycle of clen and t3 but the t3 were giving me hand sores. Then i just did a clen cycle but it wasn't as effective as I hoped.
    I now feel I am ready to try a steoid cycle but I am worried about side effects. I have read and read and spoken to steroid users but I still dont know which ones are effective and have limited effects at the same time.

    Whilst I want to cut the fat, strength gains are also helpful, but I do not want to add much mass, just get quite cut.

    Any ideas guys?

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    How does your diet look?

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    no steroid is gonna cut your body fat down like your thinking... winny. masteron and so on will lean u out.. u need to get on a diet..... no cycle needed..

    first cycle is test only cycle..

    whats your diet like?

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    Sounds like you need to go to the diet section and make yourself a solid cutting diet. Forget the steroids , for now anyways.

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    It's all about diet, everyone on here can't stress it enough until you actually try steroids and eat like shit. It will do nothing but blow you up with a ton of water and then PCT time comes and you are back to square one.. believe me, I've done it..

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    If you are a soccer semi professionally that fat should be melting away. Your diet must be way off. Why dont you post what you ate yesterday and try to include the times and amount.

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    Season has just finished so i will not really watch my diet until I start pre-season in one month. My diet will then be, what I believe, very good. High protein intake, sufficient carbs, little fat, and high liquid consumption. However, the remaining fat will not shift im sure.

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    go into the diet section. But post everything you ate yesterday. Just curious (dont lie)

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    I am also lookin for improvements in quickness, endurance, and lean muscle mass

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    normal diet

    breakfast: weetabix

    lunch: pasta and tuna

    tea: chicken breast in breadcrumbs, jacket potato, peas, spoon coleslaw

    throughout day: 2 cups tea/coffee, water, juice

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    Quote Originally Posted by leafsta View Post
    normal diet

    breakfast: weetabix

    lunch: pasta and tuna

    tea: chicken breast in breadcrumbs, jacket potato, peas, spoon coleslaw

    throughout day: 2 cups tea/coffee, water, juice
    And there lies your problem bro get over to the diet forum and let them help you out

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    Quote Originally Posted by leafsta View Post
    normal diet

    breakfast: weetabix

    lunch: pasta and tuna

    tea: chicken breast in breadcrumbs, jacket potato, peas, spoon coleslaw

    throughout day: 2 cups tea/coffee, water, juice
    That is a horrible diet, get to the diet section asap.

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    i eat that for a snack.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by busaboy27 View Post
    i eat that for a snack.....
    Hahahahha I was thinking the same thing .... but yah bro.. GET over to the diet forum.. go on now... git.. git

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    ok guys, ive had a read of the diet section and done some further research.

    I am going to try the following diet and i have attached links to the sources. if any of you could tell me if these sourcs are good, id be eternally grateful!!


    Meal 1:
    Lean Protein (chicken breast if possible, otherwise canned tuna), 1/2 cup oatmeal (http://www.tesco.com/superstore/xpi/4/xpi50332504.htm)

    Meal 2:
    Protein shake (http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powd...-whey-protein/) /Lean Protein (2 tbsp flax - http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powd...x-seed-powder/)

    Meal 3:
    Veggies, Lean Protein

    Meal 5:
    Veggies, Lean Protein, 1/2 cup rice or oatmeal.

    Meal 6:
    Shake with Flax

    Wth regards to PWO meal, this is where I need some guidance: I will cardio early morning on empty stomach from mon to fri - what do i need after workout?

    In addition, Tuesday and Thursday evening I will be sled dragging/prowler pushing and wednesday evenings will be circuit training. Does this effect diet?

    I will also be takin 5g of l-glutamine with every shake and have been considering these also: (http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powd...x-seed-powder/)

    Am i on the right lines now?

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