Anyone kickstarted his cycle with prop?

**Scarface69** · 05-28-2009, 02:39 PM

I personally hate to kick start any cycle with Dbol and Drol since all I get is bloat and water retension.

Hows everyones opinion in kick starting a cycle with test prop for 4 weeks @ 75mg ED.

Any good?

**chuckt12345** · 05-28-2009, 02:42 PM

sure what you runnin?

**Scarface69** · 05-28-2009, 02:46 PM

lets say I'm going to use the following,

1-4 test p 75mg/ED
1-12 test e 750mg/week
1-10 Deca 600mg/week

does it make since to frontload with a prop and i'm using test e througout. is that too much test?

**chuckt12345** · 05-28-2009, 02:50 PM

i mean if you want to cut afew weeks off your wait its fine.

**Scarface69** · 05-28-2009, 03:41 PM

anyone else?

**The Deuce** · 05-28-2009, 04:09 PM

Id go with 100 mgs ED of PROP if i were you....

**bene7422** · 05-28-2009, 08:42 PM

it's fine alot of people kickstart with prop

**WARMachine** · 05-28-2009, 09:05 PM

Why in the hell are you running 750mgs EW?

Whats your reasoning behind this?

Stats?

**Scarface69** · 05-28-2009, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by WARMachine

Why in the hell are you running 750mgs EW?

Whats your reasoning behind this?

Stats?

750mg of test e is too much? I was thinking to bump it up to 1k, lol

Dont worry I have a couple of cycles under my belt.

I can easily go upto 100mg of prop ED but the question is if I use prop and test e at the same time, is that too much test?

**WARMachine** · 05-28-2009, 11:13 PM

Well i would go over 700mgs for those first few weeks.

And i would stick around 5-600 mgs throughout the cycle.

Unless youve done 7+ cycles, there is no reason you cannot gain properly on 600mgs.

If you do, you have diet/training issues.

**johnnybigguns** · 05-28-2009, 11:13 PM

No you will be fine. I test e won't really kick until week 5ish
I think 750mg of test e is to much.
Also I would say 100mg ED of prop is to much too

**Scarface69** · 05-28-2009, 11:25 PM

Alright, to make more sense heres my stats..

27
5'9
225lbs
10%

7 cycles under my belt (yes I know with this much cycles I should be in 260+ lbs but had shoulder injury and lost alot of weight when recovering..)

750mg of test e and 100mg ed of test p for the 1st 4 weeks is still too much for me?

**WARMachine** · 05-28-2009, 11:36 PM

Eh... I mean youre the one whos done the cycles. You know your body better than us. If you say you need 1G a week to gain, then i guess its so.

I just wanted to clairify to newbs looking at this thread, that 1G a week shouldnt be used unless youre an EXTREME Vet. Such as this guy with 7 cycles under his belt.