What do you guys think about running HCG throughout the ENTIRE cycle

**dd0316** · 05-28-2009, 03:33 PM

Hey guys

Ive been talking to a bunch of people lately and they all run 250IU of HCG three times a week during their cycle...and a light PCT after
and they all say that they NEVER have any recovery issues or anythin after and that their PCT is much lighter

any thoughts?

**Hazard** · 05-28-2009, 04:13 PM

I personally decided to run HCG this cycle...... i tried a few different ways so far with the same results. I've done 250mcg's 3x a week and i've done 500mcg's 2x a week..... i've got about a month left..... nuts arent shrunk.

I think any cycle over 12 weeks should have HCG included. 12 weeks and under is a personal choice...... The only way to find out how you recover without it is to run a cycle and not use it.

~Haz~

**busaboy27** · 05-28-2009, 04:24 PM

im currently doing 250iu every 4 days works for me.. nice little dose.. i can see my balls now.. i started on week 6 cause of the long ester test waited for it to kick in

**The Deuce** · 05-28-2009, 04:26 PM

U Could ... personal preference i guess... MY nuts rarely shrink so i dont run it that often... ya know?

**wukillabee** · 05-28-2009, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

I personally decided to run HCG this cycle...... i tried a few different ways so far with the same results. I've done 250mcg's 3x a week and i've done 500mcg's 2x a week..... i've got about a month left..... nuts arent shrunk.

I think any cycle over 12 weeks should have HCG included. 12 weeks and under is a personal choice...... The only way to find out how you recover without it is to run a cycle and not use it.

~Haz~

Exactly! Dont know unless you try it, everyone recovers differently. If using a 19-nor such as deca or tren then yes, id say hcg is a must on cycle throughout and as said, anything over 12 weeks. Ive tried it last 5 weeks leading into pct at 1000iu week (2 500iu shots) and im recovering much easier now on pct then my last cycle which was much shorter, lower aas dosages, and no hcg used at all. Now on my next cycle i plan on running hcg starting week 3 leading up to pct at 250iu shot twice a week and see how that works for me. All trial and error but basically really determines the planned cycle at hand your using it on or doing.

**Swifto** · 05-28-2009, 04:42 PM

Use it.

125-250ius 2-3 times weekly.

**bjpennnn** · 05-28-2009, 07:24 PM

what about

wk 1-10 50mg ed prop
wk 1-8 150mg eod mast
wk 4-10 50mg ed winni

is it ok to run hcg during this? will it be beneficial?

**WARMachine** · 05-28-2009, 07:58 PM

Anytime youre running something that will shut down your HPTA, hCG is a good thing.

**spywizard** · 05-28-2009, 08:01 PM

well there ya go.. yes it is good to run it..

however, depending on the esters, i'd wait till week 4 in a 12 week cycle..

**sfour_tay** · 05-28-2009, 08:50 PM

im in a situation where i decided to run hcg after i started my cycle. if i cant start till say 5-7 weeks into my 16 week cycle will i have any problems running it later in the cycle???

**dd0316** · 05-28-2009, 08:54 PM

ive made a few other posts regarding my cylce
ill be running
1-12 500mg test e
1-5 dbol 40mg
15-19 20mg nolva 50mg clomid

where does the HCG come in 4 me?

**spywizard** · 05-28-2009, 08:59 PM

the reason to delay the administration is that in the beginning you are not suppressed a lot that is... so you need to wait some, thus the caviot about depending on your esters..

and you of coarse .. we know complete suppression can happen after a single dose, in which case sooner than later is always better..

and some will report no suppression of testicle size after 8 weeks of var.. me, i'm 2 weeks and i inject..

**dd0316** · 05-28-2009, 09:02 PM

yeaa...i had a 2 week cycle of M1T which suppressed me 2 nil

so your thinking 2 weeks for me? and then HCG 250 IU 3x/week?

**gettingBIGGERfast** · 05-28-2009, 09:17 PM

I run it every cycle now. It is ridiculous how much easier to recover after a cycle whee hcg has been run throughout, IMO

**gettingBIGGERfast** · 05-28-2009, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

the reason to delay the administration is that in the beginning you are not suppressed a lot that is... so you need to wait some, thus the caviot about depending on your esters..

and you of coarse .. we know complete suppression can happen after a single dose, in which case sooner than later is always better..

and some will report no suppression of testicle size after 8 weeks of var.. me, i'm 2 weeks and i inject..

I've actually read somewhere that during the first two weeks of suppressed testosterone levels the testicles actually become more sensitive, but begin to decline rapdily after that

**Juice Authority** · 05-28-2009, 09:19 PM

I personally don't like the idea of running it throughout the entire cycle. If I'm running a 12 week cycle I'll start around week 8 at 500ius e/5days and as the esters are clearing.

**BokBok** · 05-29-2009, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by gettingBIGGERfast

I've actually read somewhere that during the first two weeks of suppressed testosterone levels the testicles actually become more sensitive, but begin to decline rapdily after that

Sensitive hey...I might have to go fondle myself.

**gettingBIGGERfast** · 05-29-2009, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by BokBok

Sensitive hey...I might have to go fondle myself.

actually i meant to LH/FSH

**dd0316** · 05-30-2009, 12:27 PM

so any suggestions pertaining to me specifically?

**Polska** · 05-30-2009, 01:39 PM

I am using it at 300iu 2x a week right now and within 3 doses my balls have returned. I find it also increases the amount of ejaculate when I bust a nut

**jimmyinkedup** · 05-30-2009, 10:06 PM

keep in mind if not running an ai it MA increase the need to do so. Even at the small dosages discussed it might mean the diff between adverse sides or not. Just an fyi....

**Polska** · 05-31-2009, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

keep in mind if not running an ai it MA increase the need to do so. Even at the small dosages discussed it might mean the diff between adverse sides or not. Just an fyi....

what kinds of adverse sides we talking jimmy?

**dd0316** · 05-31-2009, 11:07 AM

^x2!

**caladin** · 05-31-2009, 11:39 AM

250iu every 4 days

**jimmyinkedup** · 05-31-2009, 01:48 PM

jus aromitzation (estrogen sides) ....just be aware thats all ..its a small amount but if not running an ai it may be enough where one becomes necessary when added to test currently in cycle.

**Ozzy** · 05-31-2009, 02:18 PM

New research is finding it a BAD idea to run 250iu's e3d.

**bene7422** · 05-31-2009, 05:51 PM

I run it at 250iu's every 3rd day and it's worked great for me,recovery is alot faster and easier.I believe it makes more sense to keep things in check from the beginning rather than wait till the end to repair things but that's just me

**WARMachine** · 05-31-2009, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

jus aromitzation (estrogen sides) ....just be aware thats all ..its a small amount but if not running an ai it may be enough where one becomes necessary when added to test currently in cycle.

Agreed.

This is definitely something people should be aware of...

**Polska** · 05-31-2009, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by Ozzy

New research is finding it a BAD idea to run 250iu's e3d.

Please elaborate and cite source(s) if you can

**Polska** · 05-31-2009, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by WARMachine

Agreed.

This is definitely something people should be aware of...

I noticed maybe a little more water retention while using HCG than not. No gyno symptoms to speak of though. Should I still incorporate an AI?

**operationgetbig** · 06-01-2009, 08:26 AM

i've personally never run hcg . but i know prolonged use can repress the body's own production of gonadotropins. i plan on running it in pct at 5000iu's every 5 days for 3 weeks along with clomid. then plan on finishing out pct with 2-3 weeks more of clomid.

**inky-e** · 06-01-2009, 11:22 AM

I haven't run it throughout an entire cycle...but some people swear by it...they say it helps keep the horses is the corral instead of chasing them down later.