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    Starting New Cycle soon

    Hi Guys,
    Looking at starting another cycle in the next few months.
    Previous cycles have always been}
    11 weeks Test cyp 400mg/week
    10 weeks Deca 500mg/week
    Injecting both twice a week

    Would like to try something different to gain a more hard look, any sugestions?

    I have a few 50mg amps of Winny & some 100mg of Primabolan kicking around & might like to use them.

    Thinking about
    Week 1-10 Test Prop 700mg/week
    Week 1-10 Tren Ace 75mg/day
    Week 5-10 Winni 50mg/day
    Week 1-4 D-bol tabs 30mg/day

    Lots of needles but i guess i can mix them together i one!!

    Or should i just stick to what i've been doing?
    Would like to hear your sugestions/advice

    I'm 34, 190lb, 10% b/f, 5'10"

    Thanks

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    How many cycles have you done??

    What does your pct look like...

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    4 cylces, 3 cyp/deca & 1 being just Sustanon 250.

    Pct would be
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    Clomid 100/50/50/50
    3 days after last prop injection

    or if still doing the Deca/Cyp mix would do the same pct but 2 weeks after last Cyp injection

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    Week 1-10 Test Prop 700mg/week
    Week 1-10 Tren Ace 75mg/day
    Week 5-10 Winni 50mg/day
    Week 1-4 D-bol tabs 30mg/day

    Yah, I'd definitely run this cycle instead. I'd low that tren dosage to 50mg ED since it's your first time experimenting with it (sides will be brutal off 50 imo). Bump it up to 75mg after like a week or 2 if you feel comfortable / don't get owned by insomnia / night-sweats / tremors, etc haha. Other then that looks like a pretty fun cycle... I wouldn't personally use the d-bol.. and I'd just use the 3 other compounds and make it a great cutter to not lose size.. but just drop BF% (but then again the winny a week after the d-bol will help shed that water weight pretty quick haha)

    One more thing.. is the winny oral?? because d-bol + winny with no break = pretty harsh on your liver. might wanna consider that.

    If you're set on taking the d-bol, I would increase the dosage... I found that 40 - 50mg was necessary to make good gains on d-bol.

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    Sounds Good!!
    The Winny is injectable, would it be ok to mix it with the Tren so they are both done in one shot or is this not a good idea?

    Would you also shoot the Prop every day or twice a week?

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    ed is best for prop

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    Quote Originally Posted by shameless-uk View Post
    Sounds Good!!
    The Winny is injectable, would it be ok to mix it with the Tren so they are both done in one shot or is this not a good idea?

    Would you also shoot the Prop every day or twice a week?
    lol.. DEFINITELY not twice a week.

    You could either run it Each day or.... Each other day (so 4 injections a week with a higher dosage then you would if you shot each day) -- it's your decision, generally if you inject a higher dosage = higher injection pain / soreness from the prop. But I like each other day, because it means less injects!!!

    I don't know if you can mix the winny / tren... is the winny oil based or water based injectable?

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    OK, so that would be all 3 injectables done every day!!
    Wow i'll look like a pin cushion, that'll be fun!!
    Can i mix all 3 up in one shot or is it best to keep the oil/waterbased seperate?

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    Mix the oiled based gear into the same syringe. (tren + prop)

    Shoot the water based gear separately

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    That sounds right!!
    I've read that prop can sting, so i take it thats its much different to the Cyp that i'm used to & the Sus i've tried!!

    Does it hurt lots!!! If so i think i would stick to every day, don't mind the needles!!

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    **Update**

    Struggling to get hold of any Tren Ace, is there something else any of you guys could suggest to replace this!!

    Thanks

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    you can mix it all doesnt matter if there oil and water based

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    Wil try that!! Some people say you can mix, some say no!!
    Guess i'll just find out!!

    What do you think about replacing theTren Ace with something else?
    Any suggestions?

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    trust me i have mixed oil and water based, they do not actually mix together but they can go in the same syringe it looks like a lava lamp,as for something to replace the tren a with you could go with deca again if you wanted

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    Deca at the same dose? 500mg/week shot once a week or should i spilt it up to twice a week. Have always done it in one shot/week.

    What about the Primabolan? any good as a replacement? If so what doses would you recamend?

    Thanks in advance for any help

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    i wouldnt go with primo jmo,i would just use deca same dose 500mg and shoot the deca once a week
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