gained 15 pounds in 1 week

**casper514** · 06-01-2009, 09:20 PM

193 age 24 57 oki was 178 i started this diet for bulking and its only been a week i look bigger but i also look like i put some fat on da belly i worked hard to get it of now its coming back i dident doi much cardio this week but i guess i got to to keep the bf low my question is should i get bavck on my cutting diet and keep on with my current cycle to bulk im on tren a and test enantatmy cutting diet worked very good im looking to get back up to 205 mass low bf the 3 scoops of muscle juice and 2 peanut butter is too much i think dawmmm????????

**Navy-boi-kai** · 06-01-2009, 09:24 PM

sounds like one horrible diet. Thats to much wieght in 1 week. Thats crazy. Whats your cycle look like give us some stats plse. This is bothersome to me bro. I think you needa not a pure bulk but keep you protein around 225 grams aday and about 400 carbs low fats

**ninesecz** · 06-01-2009, 09:27 PM

test and tren should not be causing you to add BF! If you are eating and training right you should almost be invinceable while you are on TREN!!

**Navy-boi-kai** · 06-01-2009, 09:30 PM

yea you shouldnt be gaining alot of fat at all. Something you doing isnt rite at all how far you into you cylce tell us how much you are doing. Also i suggst cutting out some of the powders and try sticking to more good solid food. Chicken lean beef tuna salmon. Those are good proteins. I wouldnt eat peanut better to much fat. Get away from it and how much water are you drinking?

**casper514** · 06-01-2009, 09:30 PM

exacly when i was on tren i was loosing fat not gaining
my stomich looks bloaded and its only been a week i started the cycle

**Navy-boi-kai** · 06-01-2009, 09:33 PM

yes something not rite. You mite need to do more cardio. What you dosages a week how are you shooting it?
WHats you cycle look Like? Your height as well?

**casper514** · 06-01-2009, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Navy-boi-kai

yea you shouldnt be gaining alot of fat at all. Something you doing isnt rite at all how far you into you cylce tell us how much you are doing. Also i suggst cutting out some of the powders and try sticking to more good solid food. Chicken lean beef tuna salmon. Those are good proteins. I wouldnt eat peanut better to much fat. Get away from it and how much water are you drinking?

okl this is my diet for bulking
9am 8 eggs whites 1 scoop muscle juice with milk
11am steak or turkey with swiss cheese on it
1pm 1 cup brown rice with 6 oz chiken
3 pm 2 cans of tuna with 1 tbs mayo
5 pm 2 scoops of muscle juice
7pm chiken with brown rice 1 cup
9 pm 3 scoops muscle juice with 2 tbs peanut butter natural
i dident do cardio this week i usualy do boxing for cardio 45 minutes hardcore but only went once this week i shouldfd go at least 4 times i think to really keep it off

**Immortal Soldier** · 06-01-2009, 09:36 PM

Stop eating macdonalds, I am willing to bet that out of the 15lbs you gained only 1lb is actual muscle (if that), the rest is water and glycogen.

here is my reasoning

1) It takes 4-6 weeks for test-e to kick in

2) It takes around 2-3 weeks for tren ace to start making physical altercations in your body

3) You cannot gain that much muscle in a week even with steroids

**casper514** · 06-01-2009, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Navy-boi-kai

yes something not rite. You mite need to do more cardio. What you dosages a week how are you shooting it?
WHats you cycle look Like? Your height as well?

i do eod tren 75mg thats means 1 cc eod of tren adn 50o0 mg test enantat weekly and im 5'7

**busaboy27** · 06-01-2009, 09:37 PM

need to know macros for that diet you just put up.. cant tell anything by that

need to know carb protein and fat%
annd the actual grams of all of it

**casper514** · 06-01-2009, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Stop eating macdonalds, I am willing to bet that out of the 15lbs you gained only 1lb is actual muscle (if that), the rest is water and glycogen.

here is my reasoning

1) It takes 4-6 weeks for test-e to kick in

2) It takes around 2-3 weeks for tren ace to start making physical altercations in your body

3) You cannot gain that much muscle in a week even with steroids

ok i never said it was steroid that did this if u read it talks bout the diet maybe not being the right one i was asking if i should get back on my cuting diet cuz i lost over 40 pounds with it and mc donald i wish i eat at least once but nah i dident for at least 8 motnhs only dieting ive been doing

**chitownhoker** · 06-01-2009, 09:39 PM

i have that muscle juice ( i use one scoop for my post work out shake, neer perfect carb ratio. one scoop has 41 carbs with about 17 being sugars, 12 grams or protein add 1/2 cup ON pro, gives you 25 pro, 41 carbs)

1 sercing is 4 scoops
164 carbs
54 pro
17fat

1040 calories

that means your getting close to half of your calories from shakes, get over to the diet forum bro, but a few suggestions would be oatmeal in the morning, and milk and nuts before bed

**casper514** · 06-01-2009, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by busaboy27

need to know macros for that diet you just put up.. cant tell anything by that

need to know carb protein and fat%
annd the actual grams of all of it

i based that diet on the keto diet tryed it out with that but dawm i gained all that in just one week and i feel bloated i also took 2 weeks of from the gym i got back last week and i can see a difference in my shoulders and chest but **** i was having these abs showing and there fading out again lolol

**casper514** · 06-01-2009, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by chitownhoker

i have that muscle juice

1 sercing is 4 scoops
164 carbs
54 pro
17fat

1040 calories

that means your getting close to half of your calories from shakes, get over to the diet forum bro, but a few suggestions would be oatmeal in the morning, and milk and nuts before bed

i use to eat otmaeal was my favourate i just cant eat it anymore i fell like imma expload

**chitownhoker** · 06-01-2009, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by casper514

i based that diet on the keto diet tryed it out with that but dawm i gained all that in just one week and i feel bloated i also took 2 weeks of from the gym i got back last week and i can see a difference in my shoulders and chest but **** i was having these abs showing and there fading out again lolol

your pounding your body with sugars bro, that muscle juice is full of it i think over 60 grams of one serving is sugars, thats going to make you bloat bro. To put 15 pounds on in one week, you gota be feeling like shizt

**busaboy27** · 06-01-2009, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by chitownhoker

i have that muscle juice

1 sercing is 4 scoops
164 carbs
54 pro
17fat

1040 calories

that means your getting close to half of your calories from shakes, get over to the diet forum bro, but a few suggestions would be oatmeal in the morning, and milk and nuts before bed

^^^^^^ 17 grams fat there is part of your problem and like he said all those calories from a shake

**casper514** · 06-01-2009, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by chitownhoker

your pounding your body with sugars bro, that muscle juice is full of it i think over 60 grams of one serving is sugars, thats going to make you bloat bro. To put 15 pounds on in one week, you gota be feeling like shizt

big time i went from 215 to 178 i was feeling great and now im at 193 **** but in the morning im back to normal i guess its the muscle juice to i think imma stick my iso sensation no carbs

**Immortal Soldier** · 06-01-2009, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by casper514

ok i never said it was steroid that did this if u read it talks bout the diet maybe not being the right one i was asking if i should get back on my cuting diet cuz i lost over 40 pounds with it and mc donald i wish i eat at least once but nah i dident for at least 8 motnhs only dieting ive been doing

Ok, lets take into account it IS because of your diet. Did you recently just start eating 6 meals a day or have you been doing this consistently? Because even if you bump your calories for a bulk there is no way you should gain 15lbs in one week. Trust me I know.

I started at 134lbs at 6'0, I went to six meals a day bulking when before I would be lucky if I ate two meals a day, the most weight I ever gained in a week I think was 8lbs and take into account my body had never lifted before and ate like that so I was primed to grow with n00b gains, so unless you were a lanky 174lbs I dont see why you should have gained 15lbs.

**Juice Authority** · 06-01-2009, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Navy-boi-kai

sounds like one horrible diet. Thats to much wieght in 1 week. Thats crazy. Whats your cycle look like give us some stats plse. This is bothersome to me bro. I think you needa not a pure bulk but keep you protein around 225 grams aday and about 400 carbs low fats

I gained close to that in one week off oil based TNE and inj dbol . I was also running Test E and Deca but that hadn't kicked in yet. I exploded off TNE and inj dbol. Great stack.

I went from this:

I week later or maybe it less:

**chitownhoker** · 06-01-2009, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by casper514

big time i went from 215 to 178 i was feeling great and now im at 193 **** but in the morning im back to normal i guess its the muscle juice to i think imma stick my iso sensation no carbs

go to the diet forum NOW, post up your diet or this cycle is going to go down the drain. i would help you with it but i got work in the morning, if i get up early enough and no ones looked at ill help you out, good luck!

**casper514** · 06-01-2009, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by chitownhoker

go to the diet forum NOW, post up your diet or this cycle is going to go down the drain. i would help you with it but i got work in the morning, if i get up early enough and no ones looked at ill help you out, good luck!

thnks ya ill do that and i really think its the musclkle juice too much fat in it 18gr fuyck thattt

**casper514** · 06-01-2009, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Ok, lets take into account it IS because of your diet. Did you recently just start eating 6 meals a day or have you been doing this consistently? Because even if you bump your calories for a bulk there is no way you should gain 15lbs in one week. Trust me I know.

I started at 134lbs at 6'0, I went to six meals a day bulking when before I would be lucky if I ate two meals a day, the most weight I ever gained in a week I think was 8lbs and take into account my body had never lifted before and ate like that so I was primed to grow with n00b gains, so unless you were a lanky 174lbs I dont see why you should have gained 15lbs.

i use to eat 5 when i was cutting now i eat 7 and muscle juice is just 2much

**Immortal Soldier** · 06-01-2009, 09:54 PM

LOL I guess I just have good genetics because on bulking cycles I take in close to 100-120 grams of fat and not on cycle I take around 80 grams and I actually got LEANER and developed a six pack when on cycle without doing any abs lol

**lovbyts** · 06-02-2009, 12:02 AM

Yes Genetics have a lot to do with it but.... you said before you ate 5 meals a day. How long have you been eating 7?
Really this may have a LOT to do with it. It takes your body 90 days to get use to the food intake and to STOP storing fat; so starting this at the start of a cycle is NOT a good idea. LOL

Yes it also sound like the shakes are a LARGE part of the problem. Real food is much better than shakes. I only do one shake after workout, not to supplement food but the feed the muscles after a workout with fast protein.

**casper514** · 06-02-2009, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

Yes Genetics have a lot to do with it but.... you said before you ate 5 meals a day. How long have you been eating 7?
Really this may have a LOT to do with it. It takes your body 90 days to get use to the food intake and to STOP storing fat; so starting this at the start of a cycle is NOT a good idea. LOL

Yes it also sound like the shakes are a LARGE part of the problem. Real food is much better than shakes. I only do one shake after workout, not to supplement food but the feed the muscles after a workout with fast protein.

i was eating 5 meals for bout 4 months ,and this is my hird cycle and ya ima start today and drop the muscle juice and switch for iso sensation and ill replace one of them for tuna probably anywyas ill kill the cardio 2 well c