Time between cycles?

**rebellax** · 06-01-2009, 10:19 PM

What is a good time frame to wait between cycles?

**johnnybigguns** · 06-01-2009, 10:19 PM

This gets brought up way too much.
time on+PCT= time off

**Juice Authority** · 06-01-2009, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by rebellax

What is a good time frame to wait between cycles?

When your bloodwork shows free and total test within the normal range. Time on + PCT does not always = time off. It could be shorter, could be longer. It varies on the individual.

**johnnybigguns** · 06-01-2009, 10:31 PM

Bloodwork would be the best indicator.
But alot of people don't want others to know about there use.
Time on+pct is what most go by.
I also think if someone has to ask this question they shouldn't be using at all yet.

**Juice Authority** · 06-01-2009, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by johnnybigguns

Bloodwork would be the best indicator.
But alot of people don't want others to know about there use.
Time on+pct is what most go by.
I also think if someone has to ask this question they shouldn't be using at all yet.

Who said anything about getting blood work done while on cycle?? I didn't. I get bloodwork done 2-3 weeks AFTER PCT. Everything is well cleared by that point so how exactly would someone know?

**johnnybigguns** · 06-01-2009, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Juice Authority

Who said anything about getting blood work done while on cycle?? I didn't. I get bloodwork done 2-3 weeks AFTER PCT. Everything is well cleared by that point so how exactly would someone know?

No one did I don't know where you got that from

Really time off should be based on alot of things.

**ninesecz** · 06-01-2009, 10:40 PM

I honestly thin any more than 2 good cycle a year for anyone but a avid bodybuilder or a professional is just too much. That would equal 10 cycles over a 5 year period! For me If I do one 12-16 week cycle each year for the next 5 years I think that will be more than sufficient!

**johnnybigguns** · 06-01-2009, 10:41 PM

If your gunna do bloodwork anytime it should be before you cycle and after to do a comparision

**Juice Authority** · 06-01-2009, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by johnnybigguns

If your gunna do bloodwork anytime it should be before you cycle and after to do a comparision

For what? That's pointless and an unnecessary expense. If you are going through insurance that is certainly one way to create suspicion. If you’re using an independent lab then that will run $300+ per test. The purpose of getting bloodwork is to 1) confirm HPTA recovery 2) make sure your lipid profile and liver values are within the normal range. Why would I need to compare the results? That makes no sense. If natty test is where it needs to be and my lipid profile is in check and my liver values aren't elevated then that's what matters. Period. This time on + PCT = time off crap you hear is just parroting the herd mentality.

**johnnybigguns** · 06-01-2009, 10:53 PM

what about say a week out from your cycle all your bloodwork comes back good. You good to jump on again?

**Juice Authority** · 06-01-2009, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by johnnybigguns

what about say a week out from your cycle all your bloodwork comes back good. You good to jump on again?

Yeah dude, you're gtg.

**johnnybigguns** · 06-01-2009, 11:01 PM

so what about if your libido isn't back to normal and you feel like total shit still from coming off? What about the fact that the compounds won't have as good of an effect on you because of building a tolerance? You shouldn't take a break and let the body run normal for awhile so it gets use to not being on AS?

**Juice Authority** · 06-01-2009, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by johnnybigguns

so what about if your libido isn't back to normal and you feel like total shit still from coming off? What about the fact that the compounds won't have as good of an effect on you because of building a tolerance? You shouldn't take a break and let the body run normal for awhile so it gets use to not being on AS?

Like I said and then I'm going to bed, I let my blood work be the guide. That could mean I jump back on 3 weeks after PCT if things are gtg or that could mean I stay off for a few months. If there's an issue with my blood work I retest every month until everything is in the normal range. If my natty test levels have recovered chances are greater than not that my libido is just fine.

**johnnybigguns** · 06-01-2009, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Juice Authority

Like I said and then I'm going to bed, I let my blood work be the guide. That could mean I jump back on 3 weeks after PCT if things are gtg or that could mean I stay off for a few months. If there's an issue with my blood work I retest every month until everything is in the normal range. If my natty test levels have recovered chances are greater than not that my libido is just fine.

How long do you usually wait or do you base it soully off the blood work?

**Tigershark** · 06-02-2009, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by johnnybigguns

this gets brought up way too much.
Time on+pct= time off

x2....

***t-gunz*** · 06-02-2009, 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by johnnybigguns

This gets brought up way too much.
time on+PCT= time off

correct me if i'm wrong. but i was reading and i'm sure it was in ronnies sling shot training that time on = time off isn't the way to go. maybe ronnie can chime in to this thread

***t-gunz*** · 06-02-2009, 03:57 AM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=348723

Important Note: "Time on = Time off" is a bad advice for those wanting to make serious muscle gains!!!

i knew i wasn't tripping lol