When to start winstrol?

[Newbie2008]

Hey I am trying to put together a cycle of winni, test e & enathate.

Im considering the following:

Week 1-10
Winni tabs 50 mgs ED
Test E- 450
Enath - 600

My question is, I know winni shuts down your natural test. So do I need to wait a few weeks for the Test to kick in or can I start winni at the same time?

[johnnybigguns]

test e and enthanate is the exact same thing.
What's your age/height/weight/bf%/cycle history/training experience

[Newbie2008]

Sorry I meant Tren E...

Age 25
bf 10-12%
6 feet tall, 210 pounds

Done 4 cycles before, sus/deca/anavar & prop

[HIITB$]

You have Test E and Ethanate, twice you typed it but im not following. Whats the second Enthante to? Like Tren Enthanate or something?

[Newbie2008]

Ya sorry I meant this:
Week 1-10
Winni tabs 50 mgs ED
Tren E- 450
Test Enath - 600

[Newbie2008]

Basically im just curious on whether its safe to start winni at the beginning of a cycle. Most the winni cycles ive seen on here everyone starts it a few weeks after they start there test

[johnnybigguns]

Most use it at the end as a finisher basically to help harden up.

[Newbie2008]

ok thanks, but its not a problem to start it at the beginning of your cycle then right?

[johnnybigguns]

I'm not 100% sure on that one but I don't think it would cause any real problems..
How long you gunna run the winni for?

[Newbie2008]

Not completely sure, was thinking of doing it for the full 10 weeks

[johnnybigguns]

I believe orally you should be going around 6 weeks I think it is.
It is harsh

[Newbie2008]

Ok thanks, ill stick to 6 weeks then

[Phate]

I'm not 100% sure on that one but I don't think it would cause any real problems..
How long you gunna run the winni for?

you can run winny at the beginning of a cycle, it's just not normally done because winny works best at a sub10 bf% and very few people start cycles in that range

I believe orally you should be going around 6 weeks I think it is.
It is harsh

winny is one of the more hepatotoxic orals so i would go 6 weeks max, then start liver protectants(liv52 is a good one)

[therecanonlybe1]

question..so winny tabs productivity...50mg ed for longer period or 100mg for shorter period? or neither? getting 200 50mg tabs soon want to optimize the best way i can

[hankdiesel]

Run the winny the last 4-6 weeks.

[M302_Imola]

winny is one of the more hepatotoxic orals so i would go 6 weeks max, then start liver protectants(liv52 is a good one)

This came across as you saying, take the winny for 6 weeks and then start taking some liver protectants. Don't you want to run liver protectants (NAC & Milk Thistle) on cycle as well?

[Phate]

This came across as you saying, take the winny for 6 weeks and then start taking some liver protectants. Don't you want to run liver protectants (NAC & Milk Thistle) on cycle as well?

you can run them, though liver protectants affect the gains produced from the orals slightly, it's his choice, personally i would run the protectants all the way through since you only have one liver and it's kinda important, lol

[M302_Imola]

you can run them, though liver protectants affect the gains produced from the orals slightly, it's his choice, personally i would run the protectants all the way through since you only have one liver and it's kinda important, lol

gotcha...I agree!