First cycle help please.

[lennoxxx]

Hey im planning on doing my first cycle next month im thinking about doing 250mg/wk deca nd 50mg/wk winnie for 10 weeks.im trying to make quality muscle gains with minimal fat or water retention.ive never done this before so please help me out,any advise is apreciated.

[lennoxxx]

oh sorry im 18,135 pounds 5'7

[Matt]

To young, terrible cycle idea....

Visit the diet section because there lies your problem...

[*RAGE*]

to young bro you need diet and time to grow naturally please take the time to read the threads and post your diet in the diet section and workout in the workout section...

[lennoxxx]

i dont wanna sound like a dick but ive heard im too young before but ive been to the doctor and gotten xrays my growth plates are closed and im done growing.im very serious about this so can somebody please give me real help without telling me im too young.thanks

[chuckt12345]

oh boy
man i hope you dont like having sexx cus you may need help from now on out with your age and that cycle

[chuckt12345]

you realize takin deca like that will more than likely shut you down and you wont be able to get your dk up?

[lennoxxx]

yeah i heard that before,if i add tes in the cycle will that help,if so how much?

[chuckt12345]

i mean honestly is really hard for me or anyone else on this board to tell you what to do when we STRONGLY recommend waiting a few years to start AAS.

[murphylee]

you should start weight training.

[DSM4Life]

i dont wanna sound like a dick but ive heard im too young before but ive been to the doctor and gotten xrays my growth plates are closed and im done growing.im very serious about this so can somebody please give me real help without telling me im too young.thanks

I don't wanna be a dick but by the looks of your picture you look like your 15.
Get your diet/routine in check, gain some weight naturally then come back.

[Matt]

I don't wanna be a dick but by the looks of your picture you look like your 15.
Get your diet/routine in check, gain some weight naturally then come back.

Arrrrr, you said dick.....



Reported..

[lennoxxx]

can someone just plz give me some serious help?i mean im going to do this weather yu recomend it or not,so i want to at least do it the right way.so plz serious help only.

[*RAGE*]

can someone just plz give me some serious help?i mean im going to do this weather yu recomend it or not,so i want to at least do it the right way.so plz serious help only.

then do it but you are not going to get help here except you are to young....

good luck

[alpmaster]

i dont wanna sound like a dick but ive heard im too young before but ive been to the doctor and gotten xrays my growth plates are closed and im done growing.im very serious about this so can somebody please give me real help without telling me im too young.thanks

Oh you're really serious about this? At 135 pounds, you're not. Sorry to break it to you.


Learn how to eat like a bodybuilder, and train while you mature physically and mentally, then later on (years), you can try drug use.

[chuckt12345]

ok i truly believe you will do this either way. Put the decca/winny to the side. Get some testosterone and stick with that

[Matt]

People on here have pointed you in the right direction, if your not going to take that advice then goodbye....

[chuckt12345]

People on here have pointed you in the right direction, if your not going to take that advice then goodbye....

yea but you tell him that now hes goin shoot deca/win cycle

[lennoxxx]

bro im 18 and done growing,i can join the army and get shot and killed but i am too young to use steroids?

[lennoxxx]

yea but you tell him that now hes goin shoot deca/win cycle

thanks.what dosage do yu recommend?

[chuckt12345]

bro im 18 and done growing,i can join the army and get shot and killed but i am too young to use steroids?

theres just alot of negative things that can happen taken them this young, especially when you dont know what your doin. You screw yourself up now you may be having sexual prb's for the rest of your life

[chuckt12345]

thanks.what dosage do yu recommend?

0 mg/wk
0 mg/wk

seriously dont take this stuff

[Matt]

yea but you tell him that now hes goin shoot deca/win cycle

I hear what you say and i agree, i just know that in years to come when things go wrong he will always say, " well the guys at ar told to do it this way"....

And now he's on and he wants spoon feeding....

[*RAGE*]

0 mg/wk
0 mg/wk

seriously dont take this stuff

agreed, good advice bro....

[TractionIssues]

thanks.what dosage do yu recommend?

A dosage of good diet, strong training, and dedication. What is with the kids of today that they all want the easy way out of everything? It doesn't matter anyway because he will lose the little he could gain on cycle that will probably just be water weight, and then be stuck in the same shape but with the bad side effects, stunted growth to make it harder to gain from then on, and sexual dysfunction problems.

Please take our word for it, a diet will put on better and faster weight that you will keep, than steroids at the moment. Steroids are only used to be able to pass your natural limits (which is around 200-220 lbs) and achieve more mass, ONLY if diet and training is followed religiously down to the dot.

Training ain't easy kid, and steroids are not a magical drug, please take this as advice on how to bulk the best and fastest way. We want you to grow, and be a machine, and we will help you, as long as you follow the steps properly.

Have patience young grasshopper!

Traction

[chuckt12345]

plus your metabolism usually changes from 18 to 20yrs of age. Alot of skinny late bloomers start puttin on weight in these years. Id be more worried about bangin chicks and gettin fd up at 18 than tryin to be big but thats just me

[rummyjoe]

Lennoxxx,
Im 21yrs 6ft 180lbs and have been training seriously for about 6 months
I got on here just like you for some advice and this is what I heard...
1. I am too young
2. I need to work on my diet
3. I need to train longer
I understand how you feel about the advice you are getting. I really wanted to get started now NOT later... but I am going to hold out for a few more months to get my diet figured out and train a little longer.

Listen to these guys, they know whats up. People here don't want to see you do something that could mess with you body for the rest of your life. Its worth waiting a just a few years. In the mean time you can train so when you do start your first cycle you will already be at your natural peak.

[kojak_x]

People are not going to help you on these boards because of your age. If your going to do what your going to do the information is already all here.

[TractionIssues]

People are not going to help you on these boards because of your age. If your going to do what your going to do the information is already all here.

Wow what kind of advice is that? Your giving him the impression that were holding him back, but instead were giving him the best solutions to gain the best mass and strength for his situation. EVERYONE here is willing to help him do it the proper way, and will help him with getting a top notch prime diet and training where he will see great gains at his age since he is young and full of testosterone.

Why do you try to taunt him into not listening to us and going for it anyway, and then ruining his life and health, with no gains in return?

Please if you are not going to give informative information, please for his protection don't post.

[_CrossroadS_]

bro im 18 and done growing,i can join the army and get shot and killed but i am too young to use steroids?

You are thinking about this like an 18 year old. We are poo pooing on your parade, and all you care about is getting what you want, regardless of what other people tell you...because you know best. I get it. I've been there. We all have.

But stop for a second and think this to yourself

"Why would a bunch of self absorbed, narcissistic, vain douchebags who spend entirely too much time on the internet looking at pictures of other self absorbed, narcissistic, vain douchebags, and talking about steroids, and the gym, and protein instead of spending time with their family and friends, and contributing to society, tell me not to take steroids? They clearly have no personal gain either way I go. It would be one thing if they were selling me the drugs, or were my parents, or friends. But they are going to sleep tonight whether I take drugs or not. The answer, is that there is plenty of evidence out there, both personal experiences and scientific facts that suggest this is a terrible idea."

Of course, you would have to subscribe to the fact that people are basically good, and are just looking out for you with no interest of their own...

Man, go party, get laid, go to school, join the army, do whatever you want. Then when you are ready to buckle down and start bustin' A$$ in the gym, think about this kind of thing.

I'll leave you with this...How much good are those muscles gonna do you pullin' chicks when your dick doesn't work anymore????

By the way, I enjoy being one of the afformentioned douchebags...

[alpmaster]

Picture this, you're at a house party doing some awesome underage drinking (uh oh!), and you get a girl to come home with you. You get in the back of the car, you start getting undressed and horny, she says "oh Lenoxxx, put that powerful 135 lb body on me and pound me good". You're all like "sure babe", and BAM, the thing that has always been there for you decides it's not doing any work tonight.

You're stuck in an awkward position (literally), and you're not getting any puny tonight. Now, did the 2lbs of water weight you gained from your bad ass deca/winny cycle do you any good? Nope. But hey, you can play with you're wet noodle some other day, right now you're on steroids because you're serious about this.

[WilliamCutting]

My advice would be to continue training and learn how to eat. If you're 5' 7" and only 135 lbs. you don't know how to eat. I've been training for over 10 years, am 13 years older than you and only now do I feel comfortable starting my first cycle.

By the way, I'm 6' 1" tall. When I started training, I was 160 lbs. with 16% body fat. I'm now 230 lbs. with 14% body fat, all done naturally. The reality of not seeing any major changes in my body over the past year influenced my decision to take my training to the next level.

Why would you risk ruining your quality of life when you haven't explored all the alternatives? It seems to me you're looking for an easy solution and there is none. Anything in life worth having is going to be hard to obtain.

Learn how to eat, learn how to train and when that can't take you any further, then you can start to consider anabolic supplements.

It may not be what you want to hear, BUT IT'S THE TRUTH.

[DSM4Life]

Serious guys , he is going to do it anyway so lets help him.

Here is the perfect, well close to perfect cycle for your first time.

http://www.break.com/index/little-do...his-kitty.html

[Navy-boi-kai]

ok well look bro Im 20 200 lbs 12 percent body fat. I personally think you could gain more weight naturally. My first cycle was deca only let me tell you it madem e have all kinds of problems. If you insist on cycling

weeks 1-12 test e or c 500 mgs a week

Winny weeks 8-12 at 50 mgs Every other day.

No exceptions to that cycle. Anything else at your age is just pointless and stupid and you will regret it. Also better have a planned PCT. Post cycle therapy. If not you going to lose it all. But you best friend rite now is weight and SHI* loads of good healthy food.

[jbm]

bro im 18 and done growing,i can join the army and get shot and killed but i am too young to use steroids?

are you sure you are done growing? at 18?
You are only 18 and you think you know too much?

[Navy-boi-kai]

And you post about the army or military in general. I suggest you dont treat it like that man. We do alot for you and never get the appreication or anything that we deserve. Steroids and our nations military that 2 completely different subjects so plse leave it out. We are talking about your health thats it that all.

[Navy-boi-kai]

Lennoxxx i do aplogize if i cam off like a d*** but i hope you understand my point of view. And listen to the people here they are really smart. But no deca only cycle get you some test and run it like i showed you.

[Akrobatik]

$100 says this kid wont get an erection anymore. So much fail in this thread its making my head hurt.