Tren + masteron

[jacko2009]

i finished a cycle of tren + winstrol bout 20 weeks ago. im just wondering if tren + masteron would be a good stack and mabe cause less side affects? would they work as well as winni n tren ??? i just want to rip up more than anything i really dont want to go for size. any advice wud be great thanx !

[_CrossroadS_]

Are you taking some form of testosterone with this cycle?

[RANA]

Are you taking some form of testosterone with this cycle?

^^^I have the same question^^^^

[jacko2009]

i wasnt going to but iv bin told (for best results) to take test E + tren (to rip up) ??? my last cycle i just used tren + winstrol. . . no test. . . ? ?

[alpmaster]

So you're fine with being a man and having testosterone levels less than your mother's? Go for it.

[_CrossroadS_]

I'm not sure how much you know about steroids, but they all shut down your body's natural production of testosterone. If you aren't taking testosterone, you are opening a bad can of worms. No steroids should be taken without some form of testosterone.

Why don't you post your stats (age weight BF%) and what your goals are. You'll get more information that way.

[RANA]

i wasnt going to but iv bin told (for best results) to take test E + tren (to rip up) ??? my last cycle i just used tren + winstrol. . . no test. . . ? ?

After your last cycle did you notice your body sex drive shut down? Did you get depressed (more than usual)? What was your PCT?
You need to take some form of Test, the effects of not doing that will cause a lot of issues for you.

[Chev]

You should do more research before anything else.

[jacko2009]

so when i thought i was having roid rage it was a girly bitch fit ha. yeh i couldnt keep an erection n i was gerin down alot aswell, i was taking tamoxifen , milk thistle, v2000 vitamins + tribulas (sum form of natural testosterone). i read up on steroids on here by the profiles but i didnt know you had to take test with everythin . . .shit. i bought them from a local gym ant the owner told me tren n winni wud b right ? ? ?. . . shuda cum on ere sooner.

[jacko2009]

my stats btw
height ; 168 cm / 5ft 6inc
weight ; 90.3kg / 200pound / 14stone 2pound
body fat = 16%

[_CrossroadS_]

I'd post for help in the diet forum. They'll give you some information, then ask you to post your diet. I think they can tweak it, and get you on a good workout/cardio plan, and you should drop some lbs. I wouldn't cycle at that high of bf...can lead to problems if you aren't careful.

[RANA]

I'd post for help in the diet forum. They'll give you some information, then ask you to post your diet. I think they can tweak it, and get you on a good workout/cardio plan, and you should drop some lbs. I wouldn't cycle at that high of bf...can lead to problems if you aren't careful.

I have to agree^^^^ How did you determine that you are 16%, is that a guess or did you actually get measured?

How many other cycles have you done and please list time/quantity and PCT?

[jacko2009]

I'd post for help in the diet forum. They'll give you some information, then ask you to post your diet. I think they can tweak it, and get you on a good workout/cardio plan, and you should drop some lbs. I wouldn't cycle at that high of bf...can lead to problems if you aren't careful.

really ? what bf% do you think i should get to before starting a cycle? and yeah i will look in the diet section thanks for the advice mate

[jacko2009]

I have to agree^^^^ How did you determine that you are 16%, is that a guess or did you actually get measured?

How many other cycles have you done and please list time/quantity and PCT?

i got measured with this hand held body fat and bmi measure ? iv only ever done 1 cycle . . .

week 1 / 8 tren e / 1ml / every 3rd day
week 1 / 10 winstrol depot / 1ml vial / every other day
week 1 / 12 v2000 vitamins 1 tab a day
week 8 / 12 tamoxifen + tribulus 3 tabs a day

thats all i did ? ?