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    Newb needs advice on cutting stack

    First off ill say ive never done any type of steroids before, Im a total newb. Im looking to cut up a little for the summer without losing any of that hard earned muscle. I plan on doing a mass stack later after the summer, but for now i wanna cut up.
    So I found a site that offers a Cutting Stack of 1 Clen *; 1 Winn-50*; 1 Tren 75*. And also a Summer Stack of Var 10, Winn-50, Clen.
    Would one of these be alright for an absolute beginner ?
    Would I also need to have an anti-estrogenic ?

    Any advice would really help me out bros. Thanks.

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    Sounds like the stuff from the banner above which are just supplements, not steroids .

    age?
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    body fat%?
    years training?
    pct knowledge?

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    Test beginner cycle info

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    Damn Ernst you are fast today huh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnstHatAngst View Post
    Sounds like the stuff from the banner above which are just supplements, not steroids .

    age?
    height?
    weight?
    body fat%?
    years training?
    pct knowledge?
    Those are not steroids ? wow now Im really confused lol.
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    - ? not sure
    -2yrs training
    -no pct knowledge

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbm View Post
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    Thanks.

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    Body fat not sure? can you see your abs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbm View Post
    Body fat not sure? can you see your abs?
    No abs, I can still grab a good handful of flab lol.

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    Well gonzo, nothing will cut you up like diet and cardio. I'm not saying never use AAS, just not yet. You have a lot of learning to do to safely utilize these compounds, and it's recommended to get bodyfat under control before you use them for a litany of reasons. During that time you could be making good progress on your goals even without the juice! Get a good cutting diet ironed out and post for review, and flog your ass with cardio! That's my 2¢.

    Diet forum: http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/

    PCT (post cycle therapy ) forum: http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-cycle-therapy/

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    steroids do NOT magically burn fat, they will AID an already spot on DIET

    whatever "Stack" that is, is NOT real steroids, so don't waste your money.

    also, steroids when your bodyfat is HIGH or "good handful of flab" is NOT healthy and can make matters worse by increasing risks of GYNO, heart disease, high cholesterol, and other things

    best to diet down to UNDER 15% bodyfat BEFORE you consider real steroids

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    Thanks for all the help bros. I will take your advice and do a lot more research and training before I hit up some real juice. Thanks again.

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