In really need for Help!

[Junni]

I'm 26 years old, and i'm doing a cycle recommended by my gym trainer. After showing it to some people inside this stuff, they told me that its not a wise cycle and it might ruin my HTPA forever, and the damage would be really great, and the gains would go away in an apice. So i will post the cycle, and i would appreciate that the users from this forum, could modificate or add some stuff to it so it would work nicely for me , without much damage to my body, or kill my erectil function. My purpose on this would gain some mass, and i have 170lbs.

Here is the cycle.

Day--Pregnyl(HCG)-Clomid----Deca-------Dianabol
25--- 1500/UI---------------------------------
26--------------------------------------------
27--- 1500/UI---------------------------------
28--------------------------------------------
29--- 1500/UI---------------------------------
30--------------------------------------------
31--------------------------------------------
1---------------------------200mg------------5mg
2---------------------------------------------5mg
3---------------------------------------------5mg
4---------------------------------------------5mg
5---------------------------------------------5mg
6---------------------------------------------10mg
7---------------------------------------------10mg
8---------------------------200mg------------10mg
9---------------------------------------------10mg
10--------------------------------------------10mg
11--------------------------------------------15mg
12--------------------------------------------15mg
13--------------------------------------------15mg
14--------------------------------------------15mg
15-----------------50mg-----400mg-----------15mg
16-----------------50mg----------------------20mg
17-----------------50mg----------------------20mg
18-----------------50mg----------------------20mg
19-----------------50mg----------------------20mg
20----------------100mg----------------------20mg
21----------------100mg----------------------25mg
22----------------100mg-----400mg-----------25mg
23----------------100mg----------------------25mg
24----------------100mg----------------------25mg
25-----------------50mg----------------------20mg
26-----------------50mg----------------------20mg
27-----------------50mg----------------------20mg
28-----------------50mg----------------------20mg
29-----------------50mg-----300mg-----------15mg
30-------------------------------------------15mg
1--------------------------------------------15mg
2--------------------------------------------15mg
3--------------------------------------------15mg
4--------------------------------------------10mg
5--------------------------------------------10mg
6---------------------------200mg-----------10mg
7--------------------------------------------10mg
8--------------------------------------------10mg
9--------------------------------------------5mg
10-------------------------------------------5mg
11-------------------------------------------5mg
12-------------------------------------------5mg
13---5000/UI---------------100mg-----------5mg
14--------------------------------------------
15---5000/UI----------------------------------
16--------------------------------------------
17---5000/UI----------------------------------

The days, are from 25 June till 17 august.
Please people, help me!

[sigman roid]

are you for real? wtf is all that about? post your cycle up so we can understand it please

[Junni]

I already edited, with the proper dosages... I think its quite understandable now. I couldn't abbreviate it, since its quite complex.

[sigman roid]

its still to jumbled for me, but what i could see you intend on running deca and dbol on its own am i right?

[DS21]

I hate it! It looks as if you haven't started it, which is great, but you need to add test to your cycle. Is this your first cycle, and what are your full stats?

AGE
Height
BF%
Years training
Diet

[Junni]

yeah, but someone advised me to run some test too. I just don't know how to put everything up together nicely, and that includes PCT with the proper dosages. Also, i don't want to damage my HTPA.

Age 26, 3 years training, 10% BF, 5.6 height, my diet is just an everyday meal with meat 4 days a week, and fish 3 days a week, pleanty of vegetables and fruit. I don't eat fast food and chocolates.

[DS21]

yeah, but someone advised me to run some test too. I just don't know how to put everything up together nicely, and that includes PCT with the proper dosages. Also, i don't want to damage my HTPA.

Again, is this your first cycle, and what are your stats?

[sigman roid]

you have got alot of learning to do before you do a cycle do not run what you posted! can you post up your stats as requested

[DS21]

yeah, but someone advised me to run some test too. I just don't know how to put everything up together nicely, and that includes PCT with the proper dosages. Also, i don't want to damage my HTPA.

Age 26, 3 years training, 10% BF, 5.6 height, my diet is just an everyday meal with meat 4 days a week, and fish 3 days a week, pleanty of vegetables and fruit. I don't eat fast food and chocolates.

Got your stats, is this your first cycle?

[Immortal Soldier]

LOL a Deca and Dbol cycle....

First of all why are you starting off with 5mg of dbol? What the hell is 5mg's going to do?

Don't pyramid dosages that is flawed way of thinking.

[seriousmass]

that has to be one of the most retarded cycles i've ever seen. you should fire your trainer and slap him.

if you had run deca alone like that... ouch...

deca and d-bol.. wtf?? hahaha what a joke.

and 5mg of d-bol... hahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahah.... AHAHHAHAHAHA.. good luck with gains on that dosage.

your trainer is stupid as hell

[DS21]

LOL a Deca and Dbol cycle....

First of all why are you starting off with 5mg of dbol? What the hell is 5mg's going to do?

Don't pyramid dosages that is flawed way of thinking.

Agree 100%. Pyramiding is never a good idea!

[Big]

that is undoubtably one of the worst cycles I've ever seen proposed. where on Earth do people come up with this stuff?
OP, I'm glad you're here. Read up and you can be schooling that guy in no time.

[Papa Smurf]

Junni: Go to the home page of this site. Click on steriod cycles. Click on novice cycles. Pleaes read all info there. You can pick from three great cycles that included your PCT

[Pac Man]

This post makes me want to punch you in the face... Why do you bring this hostility out of me?
On a more serious note, post it so we can read it.
Example:
Day 1-14 Deca 200mg
Day 1-5 DBol 5mg
Day 6-10 DBol 10mg
etc

Anyways, that's a horrible cycle. Take your DBol and flush it down the toilet since you'll be doing that anyways at that dosage. You might as well get a radio flyer to carry your testicles around while your at it.
This looks like your first cycle, so just stick to the basic test cycle.

[wharton]

Thats an old cycle is your trainer 50+ by any chance? Pyramid dosing is old school. The cycle is laughable by todays standards, I had a good chuckle to myself while reading it as I'm sure a few others did, deca on its own is bad enough and DBOL as well it will shut u down hard. forget the cycle post your stats and read some steroid profiles before you continue.

[Junni]

In fact, he is an old school bodybuilder with 45 years old. I've been searching a bit non-stop, and i came up with this cycle. I hope to get your opinions.

Week 1-4 Dianabol 25 MG
Week 1-8 Testoviron (enat) 400 MG
Week 1-8 Deca 400 MG

PCT
Week 6 HCG 3000 3 times
Week 7 HCG 1500 3 times
Week 9 HCG 1500 2 times
Week 10 -12 Tamoxifen 40mg ED and clomid 100mg ED
Week 12 -14 Tamoxifen 20mg ED and clomid 50mg ED

What do you think people?

[Dancer]

<<<< looks better than first post... What week are you at right now?

[Junni]

i haven't started yet. i just need some opinions from all of you, to see if there is something i can improve.

[Dancer]

I really don't like deca on the first cycle. It does not "kill my erectil function" but I just don't like it but thats just me.

You can up the test a 100mg or so. You should have and anti-e on hand for the whole cycle just incase you have issues.

I hate saying it like this but you need to spend a little time reading on the PCT and proper diet.

What is your current weight and bf% and where do you want to see your self over in terms of goals?

[Junni]

170lbs and 5.6 height. I was thinking of running 20mg during the whole cycle, of tamoxifen.

[T-MOS]

junni, did you start this cycle yet?

there is SO much wrong with that cycle.....
so just SCRAP IT all together and start fresh.. Here, read this thread

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

[sigman roid]

In fact, he is an old school bodybuilder with 45 years old. I've been searching a bit non-stop, and i came up with this cycle. I hope to get your opinions.

Week 1-4 Dianabol 25 MG
Week 1-8 Testoviron (enat) 400 MG
Week 1-8 Deca 400 MG

PCT
Week 6 HCG 3000 3 times
Week 7 HCG 1500 3 times
Week 9 HCG 1500 2 times
Week 10 -12 Tamoxifen 40mg ED and clomid 100mg ED
Week 12 -14 Tamoxifen 20mg ED and clomid 50mg ED

What do you think people?

no,no,no its still fvcked up!!where did you get this from?

[wharton]

170lbs and 5.6 height. I was thinking of running 20mg during the whole cycle, of tamoxifen.

You cant run Tamoxafin and deca you will grow boobies to put it lightly lol, you need to research a hell of a lot more and fast...

[Junni]

Week 1-4 Dianabol 25 MG
Week 1-8 Testoviron (enat) 400 MG
Week 1-8 Deca 200 MG

PCT
Week 6 HCG 3000 3 times
Week 7 HCG 1500 3 times
Week 9 HCG 1500 2 times
Week 10 -12 Tamoxifen 40mg ED and clomid 100mg ED
Week 12 -14 Tamoxifen 20mg ED and clomid 50mg ED

I already scrapped it, and i reformulated it after readind some stickys, What do you think?

[Junni]

no,no,no its still fvcked up!!where did you get this from?

i don't see why it's ****ed up, HCG should be ran in the last two weeks if the cycle has 8 months, so i did it. clomid, should start 5 days after the last injection of HCG, and about 11 days after the last enthate... Tell me where is it fcked up. Or if you are kind enough just tell me a proper way to do this cycle.

[sigman roid]

all you did is drop 200mg of deca, seriously im to tired for this today that is still the worst cycle i have seen there is so much info on first cycles here please go and read .

[Junni]

i would like to hear some more opinions, and i've heard some positive feedbacks from other sources..

[sigman roid]

i don't see why it's ****ed up, HCG should be ran in the last two weeks if the cycle has 8 months, so i did it. clomid, should start 5 days after the last injection of HCG, and about 11 days after the last enthate... Tell me where is it fcked up. Or if you are kind enough just tell me a proper way to do this cycle.

its not that i dont want to help you but i want you to understand what you are doing and right now its obvious you dont

[sigman roid]

i would like to hear some more opinions, and i've heard some positive feedbacks from other sources..

seriously if anyone gave you positve feed back on that cycle they dont know what there talking about....im out.

[Junni]

Any more fundamented opinions?

[Big]

horrible idea for a number of reasons. We have so many educational threads on this subject, I don't have the time to re-write it all. just do yourself a favor, spend an afternoon reading the educational threads at the top of the appropriate sections, let it digest a bit, then go from there and we'll help you tweak it.

[DS21]

It sounds as if you can get some test e? If so, just run 500mg/wk of that for 12 weeks.

Test E and Deca take about 4-5 weeks to kick in, so if you would use them for 8 weeks you can see that you would only benifit for a few weeks from the compounds. Test only will always be the best cycle to start with, save your deca for a later one.

[lovbyts]

More opinions, OK but not positive.
Main thing is you are trying to do to much. Keep it simple. Test only. No pyramid (old school) and run it 12 weeks.

Research the proper PCT also and again, keep it simple.

Now, check out the diet section before doing anything, Diet is 90% of the game. If you think you have your diet down, it's OK then more than likely you DONT. Please go read, do research in the diet section and read the links

[AllPumpedUp]

my theory is to keep everything as simple as possible. 4get all the fancy things and just do 30-40mg of D-bol Ed for 28days (4 weeks) and 500mg of a long esther test Cyp, enth. and run it for 10-14 weeks. wait 14 days from last shot and start your therapy! If you do not get sufficient gains from this , your diet and exercise routine are not in balance.

[lovbyts]

It's his first cycle, right? Drop the D-bol also

[busaboy27]

wtf? test only cycle.. for 10-12 weeks around 500 a week. plain and simple.. figure out a pct for yourself... forget about everything else you are thinking..


i need a favor...... punch your trainer in the face repeatedly for me and everyone on the board.. maybe even kick him a few times as he is going down

[AllPumpedUp]

I really do feel bad for these people that actually get nerve to ask somebody because they want to make sure they are doing things right and they end up asking some moron that did some dumb ass cycle and thinks because he gained 20# on his bench and 50# of waterweight that what he did was perfect so he starts telling people... Oh yeh thats the way to go!!.
I guess it is the same reason people OD on pain meds. They think they are not going to hurt them until they choke on their own vomit!

[lovbyts]

His trainer is more interested in making a buck than what is good for him. Also like most trainers he is only after the QUICK gains with no regards to safety or long term health and most trainers I have seen I laugh at. They are good for OLD laddies who like the extra attention in the gym.

[sigman roid]

sometimes i dont understand people on here, you can see this person is not ready to cycle you can see from our posts that we are trying to get this person to do some research for him self then people dive in and give him all he needs.do you not think we could have done this from the start?theres obviously a reason we didnt give him the info and thats because he aint ready and he needed to research himself!!!