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    TRT and AAS cycles

    I am on lifetime TRT due to varicocelectomy gone wrong. now that I am on life time TRT I am interested in learning about cycling higher levels of Test and other AAS.


    I currently am using 100mg test enanthate /wk, I have tried androgel 5gm/day as well, and liked the increased libido from the gel compared to the Test enanth. I don't like the cost of the androgel, or the caution needed to prevent transferring it to the misses.

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    I have been lifting for 5+ years.

    I am a nurse, so I have basic anatomy,physiology, chemistry, and pharmacology knowledge.

    I would like to know what are some good beginner cycles for someone on lifetime HRT.

    I have read that Test enanthate at 400-500mg a week for 12 weeks is a good start, but I don't know if you need to make that higher since my base line is low to begin with.

    I have read that deca , or D-bol is a good start as well.

    I have read about basic PCT, but since that doesn't completely apply to me, I am more interested in the best drugs/dosages to prevent gyno, and how to cycle this along with HRT/AAS.

    I realize that this information is probably posted elsewhere on this forum, but I would appreciate any advice that can be offered.

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    T-MOS, War, any VETS, This one is for you.I'm not a doctor,So I can't advise you with your specific condition.

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    Just up your test dose to 500 mg's a week split in 2 shots and if you'd like to run deca ..it would be at 300-400 mg's a week split the same way...run the test for 14 weeks and deca for 12 weeks...you'll get great results providing everything else is in check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regulator77 View Post
    I am on lifetime TRT due to varicocelectomy gone wrong. now that I am on life time TRT I am interested in learning about cycling higher levels of Test and other AAS.


    I currently am using 100mg test enanthate /wk, I have tried androgel 5gm/day as well, and liked the increased libido from the gel compared to the Test enanth. I don't like the cost of the androgel, or the caution needed to prevent transferring it to the misses.

    I am
    32 yo
    6'4"
    236 lb.
    15% bf
    I have been lifting for 5+ years.

    I am a nurse, so I have basic anatomy,physiology, chemistry, and pharmacology knowledge.

    I would like to know what are some good beginner cycles for someone on lifetime HRT.

    I have read that Test enanthate at 400-500mg a week for 12 weeks is a good start, but I don't know if you need to make that higher since my base line is low to begin with.

    I have read that deca , or D-bol is a good start as well.

    I have read about basic PCT, but since that doesn't completely apply to me, I am more interested in the best drugs/dosages to prevent gyno, and how to cycle this along with HRT/AAS.

    I realize that this information is probably posted elsewhere on this forum, but I would appreciate any advice that can be offered.

    Thanks
    I would just run test e at 500mgs weekly for 12 weeks. A test only cycle will let you see how you react to the high dose of test. You should keep armidex on hand in case you notice bloat and that would be run at .5mgs ed. You are right about pct you wouldnt use it at all you would just start your trt dose again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regulator77 View Post
    I am on lifetime TRT due to varicocelectomy gone wrong. now that I am on life time TRT I am interested in learning about cycling higher levels of Test and other AAS.


    I currently am using 100mg test enanthate /wk, I have tried androgel 5gm/day as well, and liked the increased libido from the gel compared to the Test enanth. I don't like the cost of the androgel, or the caution needed to prevent transferring it to the misses.

    I am
    32 yo
    6'4"
    236 lb.
    15% bf
    I have been lifting for 5+ years.

    I am a nurse, so I have basic anatomy,physiology, chemistry, and pharmacology knowledge.

    I would like to know what are some good beginner cycles for someone on lifetime HRT. start you trt 100-200mgs weekly and see what results and how your body does with test inj for a few months.

    I have read that Test enanthate at 400-500mg a week for 12 weeks is a good start, but I don't know if you need to make that higher since my base line is low to begin with. that is a very good cycle,but like I said above

    I have read that deca , or D-bol is a good start as well. not true, dbol is a good kick start to a cycle but your on trt which is lifetime. dca is good for adding mass and most docs give it for joints. deca is a great addition to test though

    I have read about basic PCT, but since that doesn't completely apply to me, I am more interested in the best drugs/dosages to prevent gyno, and how to cycle this along with HRT/AAS. best way is regular blood checks to see whats going on with your estrogen levels and other thing, some docs will give adex or you can obtain easily yourself. cant really say what dosage is the best to start out w/ bc some guys are prone to gyno some not.

    I realize that this information is probably posted elsewhere on this forum, but I would appreciate any advice that can be offered.

    Thanks
    like I said start your trt and see what happens, im not an expert but I can tell you that some people get better results than others. stick with a trt dose and good diet and workout and add some test to 500 a week for 10-12 wks and drop back down to 200mgs aweek. keep reading or posting...

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    Yea Bro! The Ink Man is correct! 500mg of test c or e and some deca would give you some great results! Just make sure that diet and your routine are in check.
    You TRT doctor can help you out with any gyno or other estrogen problems.
    A good 12 ta 15 week cycle of 500 cyp/300deca would be good. after that just cruise on your TRT.

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    Is arimedex the best gyno prevention drug? I have read about Nolvadex as well. what is the consensus on this?

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    how often is your doctor testing your blood? If she does your levels while on a 500mg ew stint, the doc is either going to put you down as an abuser or think your dose is too high and drop you down to a lower dose or take you off! That is why I need to manipulate my test results and do my cycles between bloodwork

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    sorry, arimidex

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    Agree with above up your dose for say 14 weeks and maybe add another compound.
    I was also prescribed the gel and I prefer not to use it I instead use 150mg a week of test E.
    when I cycle I increase to 250mg a week just my prefrence I rely on the other introduced compound to do the majority of the work Deca ,Tren ect. After the 14 weeks are up go back to your normal TRT dose of 100mg a week no pct needed.
    Last edited by canadian meat; 06-08-2009 at 12:24 PM.

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    what kind of results do you see with 250mgs?

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    My blood tests are every six months, so I will schedule my cycle to end before the next draw. I am assuming that it all depends on what I am cycling, for the amount of time to bring my testosterone levels back down.

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    yea dont go to your doc for blood work when doing a cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by warchild28 View Post
    what kind of results do you see with 250mgs?
    So far so good Ive only been on maybe a year so Im sure as time goes Ill need to increase in order to keep sexually active during cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadian meat View Post
    So far so good Ive only been on maybe a year so Im sure as time goes Ill need to increase in order to keep sexually active during cycle.
    hmmm, im about to hit 400mgs aweek so ill post results

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    What is the most current consensus on the best drug/dosage for gyno prevention? Letrozole ? arimidex ? nolvadex ?

    i realize results may vary, but what is a good guideline drug to use?

    Also, how well do the non prescription AI's work in contrast? such as 6-OXO, or Novadex-XT?

    Again, thanks for the all the info so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regulator77 View Post
    What is the most current consensus on the best drug/dosage for gyno prevention? Letrozole ? arimidex ? nolvadex ?

    i realize results may vary, but what is a good guideline drug to use?

    Also, how well do the non prescription AI's work in contrast? such as 6-OXO, or Novadex-XT?

    Again, thanks for the all the info so far.
    For me..especially with deca ..its arimidex...otc stuff sucks imo....I have clients that have been on trt including deca for 6 months..under the supervision of a doctor...they made good gains..but truth be told.. they should have stopped after 3 months (the deca)...now they have added HGH...these guys are newbs and they will do whatever that steroid (rejuvination) doctor tells them...I met him once and immediately saw that he was an assclown....just keep bloodwork up to date and you'll be fine at the doses I suggested earlier..arimidex on hand in case of gyno..as needed only.

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    Thanks very much for the info

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