Deca Stan Cycle 16weeks?

[big_ron]

Hey guys im thinking of my 2nd cycle.

im thinking 1-12week of deca 200mg
then stanazol 10 - 16 50mg a day

i want to be really ****** by then end of my cycle any thoughts?
im 6'1 213pounds bf% about 13

[big_ron]

i want to be really cut* by then end of my cycle

[Navy-boi-kai]

you need some test bro try some prop

[Reed]

that is a horrible cycle all cycles should include test.

Drugs will not make you cut, its all diet and cardio.. You have to design those correctly as you can practically cut and bulk with any compound

[Hunter]

Whats your age?

That is a horrible cycle you need to run at least a hrt dose of test when running deca. Secondly diet not compounds determine how cut your going to get. 3rdly your pretty light for all ready have ran a cycle.

[sigman roid]

not good dont run deca and stanz on there own

[johnnybigguns]

Terrible cycle.
What was your first cycle?

[big_ron]

im 20.
the prob is im in aus and all the people who i get my shit throught dnt know anything so i cant get test.
well give me a suggestion on what a better cycle using them would be.
my 1st was simular but lower dosage and for shorter

[JiGGaMaN]

im 20.
the prob is im in aus and all the people who i get my shit throught dnt know anything so i cant get test.
well give me a suggestion on what a better cycle using them would be.
my 1st was simular but lower dosage and for shorter

god help you.

[big_ron]

i dnt full understand test and why you need it with every cycle either can sum1 give me a link to sumwhere which would help explain it all

[T-MOS]

i dnt full understand test and why you need it with every cycle either can sum1 give me a link to sumwhere which would help explain it all

basically the male body runs on Testosterone, its what makes men MEN.

When you take exogenous hormones you SHUT DOWN your body's natural production of Testosterone....not good to do, the body doesn't run correctly without test.

SO, you need to supplement your body with artificial Testosterone in order to make up for what you are losing by using Suppressive steroids.

you are asking about Deca which is THE MOST suppressive steroid out there and will SHUT YOU DOWN from the very first shot.

[sigman roid]

theres no cycle anyone will recommend with those two compounds on there own,you need test when your using those compounds as they will most certainly shut down your natural test production(deca is well known for it)you need test to replace the test that has been supressed/shut down this is why test is always a base for your cycle with no test in your body you may as well be female...lol

[big_ron]

i realise what testosterone actually is! but thought other steroids where other types of artificial testosterone. ok now i understand it all a bit more from studying it. gotta love the net.now i know i need test in my cycle. i feel a bit dumb. you see im trying to keep my use a secret as much as i can so i dnt talk to other guys about it that i know use.

Can some 1 please give me an example of a cycle i should do using what ive told you's plus test. (which i now need 2 find)

[AllPumpedUp]

testosterone cyp or enth 400-500mg ewe Divided into 2 shots for 12 weeks
Deca 300mg Ew (same pin schedule as test) for 10-11 weeks

Need Pct so you need to do research on that

[roidboyjnr]

Ffs do some research why do we spoon feed these goons for. Im over these stupid posts, and its the same 1 you read every week for the same thing almost.

[lovbyts]

Ffs do some research why do we spoon feed these goons for. Im over these stupid posts, and its the same 1 you read every week for the same thing almost.

What you mean all steroids AREN'T the same?
or
I'm 18, how many steroids should I stack for my first cycle?
But my friend said I should use XXX
My dealer/source said I should use xxx
I'm 18 and done growing, what should I use?
I cant gain weight, 6ft 130 lbs, what is the best steroid to take
I'm 300 lbs, what steroid will get me down to 200 in 6 weeks?
But my 20 yr old friend used xxx with no PCT and is fine...
if I take x and x and x how big will I get?
I started my cycle YESTERDAY, why don't I feel anything?

etc etc etc

[T-MOS]

What you mean all steroids AREN'T the same?
or
I'm 18, how many steroids should I stack for my first cycle?
But my friend said I should use XXX
My dealer/source said I should use xxx
I'm 18 and done growing, what should I use?
I cant gain weight, 6ft 130 lbs, what is the best steroid to take
I'm 300 lbs, what steroid will get me down to 200 in 6 weeks?
But my 20 yr old friend used xxx with no PCT and is fine...
if I take x and x and x how big will I get?
I started my cycle YESTERDAY, why don't I feel anything?

etc etc etc

I would MUCH rather them come here and ask these questions over and over again then just go out there and do it blindly!!!
I doubt anyone of us when we first started knew ALL the answers. I know I didn't. I only WISH I had this place to come to when I first started instead of listening to my trainer.......

The only dumb question is the one that goes un-asked! If you don't have the patience to deal with the redundancy of this place, then may I suggest you stick to the lounge.........

[lovbyts]

I would MUCH rather them come here and ask these questions over and over again then just go out there and do it blindly!!!
I doubt anyone of us when we first started knew ALL the answers. I know I didn't. I only WISH I had this place to come to when I first started instead of listening to my trainer.......

The only dumb question is the one that goes un-asked! If you don't have the patience to deal with the redundancy of this place, then may I suggest you stick to the lounge.........

Oh I agree, I was just reconstituting what we have all head/read 1000s of times and trying to be funny

I also agree it's good to ask but it would be nice if people would at least TRY to search first so they had a little idea before asking. Most are not new to forums but seem to forget about the search feature. If you search and read and are still confused then ask. A clue to you actually having put any effort into it is not to be expected to be spoon feed and ask well is this better than this for PCT if I use it with this or that.
Honestly your question has been answered 1000s of times. Feel free to read a few of them and then ask your well thought out questions and you will get 100x more help like your last question.

[chuckt12345]

Ffs do some research why do we spoon feed these goons for. Im over these stupid posts, and its the same 1 you read every week for the same thing almost.

WHATT???? thats the point of this fkn forum is to ask for help and to receive it. You dont want to help someone leave the fkn room. Gettin tired of people acting pissed off because someone is on here asking questions because they need help..

[_CrossroadS_]

Yeh, but I would have been thankful right now had someone stepped in like this when I was 20. Man, it's annoying as hell, but if you can get one ignoramus to change his mind, then it was worth it. I kind of think of it as giving back to a forum that has helped me so much. Keep giving them hell, you'll change a few minds...

[Mooseman33]

Yeh, but I would have been thankful right now had someone stepped in like this when I was 20. Man, it's annoying as hell, but if you can get one ignoramus to change his mind, then it was worth it. I kind of think of it as giving back to a forum that has helped me so much. Keep giving them hell, you'll change a few minds...

solid post man...

[T-MOS]

start here:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

[big_ron]

thanks for thoes who want to actually help! so what im a newbie. im trying to lern as much as i can. and like all of us here want to get big quick, and ive been spending alot of time on the net searching on how to do it correctly. thoes who are sick of me asking "dumb" questions dnt post anything on this thread im sure you wernt born with all the knowledge you have and you have to lern from somewhere so im asking you guys.

what about if i want to add some stan to my cycle?