finally ready for second cycle... pls crituqe as u see fit!

[thaiboxerfr]

OK ive posted before a couple months ago on a rough cycle i had planned.. ive revised it a lil bit to better fit my goals.. i ran a cycle of just test-e early in the year and the results were great, i started at 205 lbs and gained a solid 35 lbs.. ive kept about 25 of those lbs.. yes i know i wasnt near my natty limit but i went ahead with it anyways and i came out just fine, kept my diet in check, my training was awsome, not really any sides cept a lil acne on my back, which went away! i wanna try another cycle with a lower dose test and throw in some tren as well.. heres my prev. cycle

week 1-13 test-e 600mg\week
week 1-13 liquidex .25-.5mg\day
PCT week 1-4 20mg nolva\day
20mg aromasin \day


THIS CYCLE: i wanna do this..

week 1-12 test-c 500mg\week
week 1-12 tren-e 400mg\week
week 1-12 liquidex .25-1mg\day as needed...

PCT:

week 1-4 20-40mg nolva\day
20-40mg aroma\day

i hear u should never ever run tren by itself. is this cycle to xtreme for my second cycle? is it a good cycle for me? heres my stats..

23 yrs old. im 6`4 230-235 lbs havent had a bf test in a while but im guessing around 10 percent.. looking to drop it down to 6-8 percent i wanna be a lean 225

what u guys think??

[Papa Smurf]

Might I suggest a nice Test/Deca /Dbol for your first stack bro.
Deca is great for mass and the dbol will give you a nice kick start.
Tren is a pretty big Bear, and you should have a few more cycles under your belt first. just my .02 Bro





Oh, never run Tren E until you know how you react to it. Could be 4 ta 6 weeks of hell bro. Start with Tren A if you just gotta run Tren

[thaiboxerfr]

u know i was thinkin about deca and dbol too, i was leaning toward tren tho cuz my sides on the test were really non existent..

[Papa Smurf]

How you do on test has nothing to do with how you will react to tren . You may want to check out the sideeffects of tren more.

A deca /test/dbol would give you great gains ( even though I think at your age) you could make those same gains with good diet. But since this is your second cycle, the horse is outta the barn now, so I guess there is no way of talking you out of this cycle

Rethink the tren bro. It will still be around when its time. Dont sell a good test/deca cycle short. Thats a hellova stack!

[thaiboxerfr]

yea, im very open to any suggestions im not as thick headed as u might think lol... ive been hearing al ot of the same.. save the tren for later cycles, etc etc... so i think ima look into deca .. i really like how deca sounds because of the join lubrication it has.. ive had friends run deca in the past and they say its amazing..

im guessing a good deca dose while on test is around 400mg\week? its a long ester right? so injections 2x a week?

o and yes, the horse is outa the barn haha, as people on the forums say when u first start.. ive fallen to the dark side pretty hard, i love the stuff!

[T-MOS]

I would NEVER do tren for a second cycle
even worse, I would NEVER do TREN E for the first time with Tren

do the test /deca that will give you nice mass

[Papa Smurf]

Yea 400mg would be fine. Shot every 3.5 days, and yes you can mix the deca and test in the same syringe.

[thaiboxerfr]

cool so instead of the tren i think ima do deca ... i followed everyones advice on my first cycle and it came out really really good, way above what i thought it would be... thanks papa smurf, and T-Mos.. ima go with deca and dbol this time around.. maybe in the future ill go for a tren a and test cycle... one more bulking cycle couldnt hurt just gives me more to work with ya know? thnx again guys!

[AllPumpedUp]

yeh man going right to tren e and at a 400mg EW dose?? thats insane you need to do Tren A first off to see what kind of sides you get! It will not be the greates to find out 5 weeks in you are having a bad reaction and still need 3-6 weeks to get the sides to taper