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    Critique Cycle Please

    Stats:

    29 yrs old
    205 lbs
    14% BF
    5 Previous Cycles
    350g protein ed
    3000-3500 calories ed

    wanted to run a 16 week cycle:

    weeks:

    1-16 test e 250 mg 2x week
    1-6 anavar 50mg ed
    1-10 masteron enanthate 100mg 4x week
    1-12 eq 200 mg 2x week or deca 200mg 2x week
    10-16 winny 50mg tabs ed

    have arimidex , letro, and proviron on hand for anti-e's.
    have clomid and nolva for pct.

    Anything you would take out or add?
    Last edited by erock80; 06-09-2009 at 09:53 PM.

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    y no test??

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    I have test. weeks 1-16 test e 250 2x a week

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    how tall are you?

    what were the 5 previous cycles and doses, lengths, PCT

    your winny timing is off if your using Test E

    Personally I think EQ is a waste at less than 600 mgs/week for anything less then 16 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    how tall are you?

    what were the 5 previous cycles and doses, lengths, PCT

    your winny timing is off if your using Test E

    Personally I think EQ is a waste at less than 600 mgs/week for anything less then 16 weeks
    6'0"
    1st:
    test c 500 mg week 1-10 weeks - clomid pct

    2nd:
    sustanon 500 mg week @ 125mg eod 1-10 weeks
    finaplix 75mg ed 1-6 weeks
    dbol 30mg ed 1-4 weeks
    clomid pct

    3rd:
    test prop 400mg week @ 100 mg eod 1-10 weeks
    deca 400mg week @ 200mg 2x week 1-10 weeks
    winstrol 50mg inj ed 4-10 weeks
    nolvadex 20mg ed 4-10 weeks
    clomid pct

    4th:
    test prop 400mg week @ 100 mg eod 1-12 weeks
    finaplix 75mg ed 4-12 weeks
    anavar 40 mg ed 1-6 weeks
    nolvadex 20mg ed 1-12 weeks
    clomid pct

    5th:
    same as 4th cycle

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    6 foot tall and only 205 after 5 cycles????

    something is wrong here.......

    you should be able to get to and maintain 210-220 NATURALLY and you are not even there after 5 cycles???


    better get a very close look at your diet and fix it before WASTING more gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    your winny timing is off if your using Test E
    when should i use the winny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by erock80 View Post
    when should i use the winny?
    you can run the winny right up until the day before your PCT starts which would be 14 days after last test E, so you could run it for 13 more days

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    6 foot tall and only 205 after 5 cycles????

    something is wrong here.......

    you should be able to get to and maintain 210-220 NATURALLY and you are not even there after 5 cycles???


    better get a very close look at your diet and fix it before WASTING more gear
    my last cycle was 2 yrs ago. i walk around at 215. i am weight cutting for a jui-jitsu tournament next week where i need to be 199. so i'm not wasting any gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    you can run the winny right up until the day before your PCT starts which would be 14 days after last test E, so you could run it for 13 more days
    gotcha

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    Quote Originally Posted by erock80 View Post
    my last cycle was 2 yrs ago. i walk around at 215. i am weight cutting for a jui-jitsu tournament next week where i need to be 199. so i'm not wasting any gear.
    hmmmm OK if you say so............

    I think you got too many compounds in that cycle, but its your body

    what are your goals with this cycle?


    why do so many cycles if you don't want to even be at your natural potential weight?? Just curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    Personally I think EQ is a waste at less than 600 mgs/week for anything less then 16 weeks
    so go with the deca ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by erock80 View Post
    so go with the deca?
    i guess it really depends on your goals here

    deca is a good mass builder, but you seem to want to drop weight for your fight, so you probably don't need it

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    hmmmm OK if you say so............

    I think you got too many compounds in that cycle, but its your body

    what are your goals with this cycle?


    why do so many cycles if you don't want to even be at your natural potential weight?? Just curious
    i will be back at my walk around weight the beginning of july. i want to drop my bf down a few points and gain 5-10 lbs of lean muscle. i only do tournaments a few times a year and want to move up a weight class without sacrificing strength. i am not dead set on this cycle. i just have a stock of gear and figured i would do another cycle. what would you take out?

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    i might just do the Test/Masteron /winny then

    I can take or leave anavar so thats your call

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    i might just do the Test/Masteron /winny then

    I can take or leave anavar so thats your call
    i have fina too. doesnt fina and mast go well together?

    stick with the 16 week cycle or drop some weeks

    maybe:

    1-10 test and mast
    4-10 fina
    4-12 winny

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    Why do you feel you need to run so many different compounds? I have always kept my cycles to 3 compounds and under. Always had good gains and always had very little sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllPumpedUp View Post
    Why do you feel you need to run so many different compounds? I have always kept my cycles to 3 compounds and under. Always had good gains and always had very little sides
    if y0u look at my last cycles i've always done three and under. like i said i'm not set on this cycle and just wanted some advice

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    You really think you need to take drugs to lose 6lbs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _CrossroadS_ View Post
    You really think you need to take drugs to lose 6lbs?
    who said i was taking them to lose 6 lbs? I have 6lbs to lose for this weekends tournament, actually three now, and then i will get back to my walk around weight of 215 and start my cycle

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