Next Cycle Feedback

**esca_laid** · 06-10-2009, 11:10 PM

Stats: age 25, 215lbs 8%bf done 4 full cycles with complete PCT and recovery time. Training since 16, diet and training routines are checked regularly and adjusted.

Here is a look at my next cycle due to start in September.

Week 1 – 6 Prop 100mg EOD
Week 1 – 6 Ena 500mg/wk
Week 7 – 15 Ena 750mg/wk
Week 1 – 10 Deca 550mg / wk
Week 15-18 Prop 100mg EOD

Week 10 –18 Arimidex 1mg eod if needed for water retention

Might also add in from 10 – 15 Tren A 100mg/eod

Then full PCT ie HCG , Nolva, Clomid, Trib etc

My main concern is if this cycle is too long? I could shorten it up to only 16wks as oppose to 18wk but will that really effect me that much? Ie burn my receptors out etc?

NOTE* I am running the 100mg Prop EOD at the end for the 18 days I gotta wait for the Ena to get out of my system before beginning PCT

Also theoretically speaking because Enath is in your system 18 days post last injection you are on test for those 18 days just not injecting. So doing prop during the 18 days is really not extending the cycle at all its just stacking two compounds.

**Charger527** · 06-11-2009, 12:09 AM

I dont see any major problems with it. Enathante is 14 days isn't it cyp is 18?

**esca_laid** · 06-11-2009, 12:15 AM

Ya i originaly was gunna run cyp so im stuck on the 18days lol

**Navy-boi-kai** · 06-11-2009, 01:26 AM

i think the cycle is good. Keep it.

**esca_laid** · 06-11-2009, 02:23 PM

any other feedback?

**Papa Smurf** · 06-11-2009, 02:55 PM

IMHO I think you'll be wasting about three weeks of gear. Times are hard, money is tight!

**Charger527** · 06-11-2009, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Smurf

IMHO I think you'll be wasting about three weeks of gear. Times are hard, money is tight!

And why would that be???

**esca_laid** · 06-11-2009, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Smurf

IMHO I think you'll be wasting about three weeks of gear. Times are hard, money is tight!

No worrie there its pretty much all free for me

**thebigfella** · 06-11-2009, 10:11 PM

how cum ur changin the enth from 500 to 750 half way through, iv never tried that, why dont u start with the 750

**esca_laid** · 06-11-2009, 10:13 PM

becuz im running 100mg prop EOD and dont wana be jammign to much test into my system, 1gram of test is way overboard if u ask me even though for the first 6 weeks il lbe doing 850mg on average. Im also using the prop as a jump start to feel it alot quicker. then once the ena is in me fully ill jump it to 750

**thebigfella** · 06-11-2009, 10:27 PM

ohhh i get u brother, well good luck, stay safe and get massive

**Charger527** · 06-12-2009, 12:55 AM

Id prob jump the test e up on week 4, run prop till week 5, but all depends what works for you.

**seriousmass** · 06-12-2009, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by esca_laid

becuz im running 100mg prop EOD and dont wana be jammign to much test into my system, 1gram of test is way overboard if u ask me even though for the first 6 weeks il lbe doing 850mg on average. Im also using the prop as a jump start to feel it alot quicker. then once the ena is in me fully ill jump it to 750

No.. you've got it all wrong. Think about it this way. When you're injecting the enan it will not sufficiently build up dosage, in your blood-levels, till 4 to 5 weeks into the cycle. So in actual fact the best way to keep your blood-levels stable is to run the Test-E @ 750mg from week 1 - 15.

**seriousmass** · 06-12-2009, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by esca_laid

Stats: age 25, 215lbs 8%bf done 4 full cycles with complete PCT and recovery time. Training since 16, diet and training routines are checked regularly and adjusted.

Here is a look at my next cycle due to start in September.

Week 1 – 6 Prop 100mg EOD
I'd bump the prop up to 150mg EOD.. but that's just me if are good with 400mg EW then cruise with that.
Week 1 – 6 Ena 500mg/wk
Read my post above this. KEEP ENAN LEVELS STABLE THROUGHOUT THE CYCLE. Therefore bump this dosage up to 750mg
Week 7 – 15 Ena 750mg/wk
Week 1 – 10 Deca 550mg / wk
I would lower the dosage of deca and run it for longer. IMO deca produces MUCH better, and noticeable gains, when run for 14 weeks. Therefore, I suggest running it at 400mg for 14 weeks. (assuming you only have 5500mg.. but if you've got more then run it at 550mg for all 14 weeks )
Week 15-18 Prop 100mg EOD
This would be only weeks 15 - 17 if you wanted to start PCT immediately after test-E ester clears.. but you could run the prop an extra week, no problem. once again i'd suggest bumping it up to 150mg EOD.

Week 10 –18 Arimidex 1mg eod if needed for water retention

TOO HIGH A DOSAGE OF A-DEX. 1mg is not necessary. run it at .5 eod. and only if necessary. You do realize you need estrogen in your body to great muscle growth right? don't go killing it all off buddy

Might also add in from 10 – 15 Tren A 100mg/eod

Nice choice. Have you ever run tren in the past? it can be pretty brutal.. If it's your first time I'd suggest lowering that dosage. No need for 400mg of tren. I'd stick with 300-350 for a first cycle. Also.. injecting each day with less oil can actually help with sides.. because they are simply brutal man. terrible.

Then full PCT ie HCG , Nolva, Clomid, Trib etc

My main concern is if this cycle is too long? I could shorten it up to only 16wks as oppose to 18wk but will that really effect me that much? Ie burn my receptors out etc?

No. Keep it the way we have it. I like it. You'll recover fine. Run the HCG from weeks 6 - 18. and then do a proper PCT, you'll be fine.

NOTE* I am running the 100mg Prop EOD at the end for the 18 days I gotta wait for the Ena to get out of my system before beginning PCT

Good call. Test-E ester is only 14 days.. so you're actually extending it a week.. but whatever, that's chill.

Also theoretically speaking because Enath is in your system 18 days post last injection you are on test for those 18 days just not injecting. So doing prop during the 18 days is really not extending the cycle at all its just stacking two compounds.

nope. haha

k so that took a while.. jeez. as you can see there are a lot of changes i'd make to that cycle. I hope you like the modifications, they'll be good. Looks like a big bulker. Make sure you extend that deca to 14 or, even better yet 16 weeks.. (if you can get your hands on more).. and yah, good luck with that tren.

PM me if you need anymore help.

PC

**esca_laid** · 06-13-2009, 08:24 PM

Sick man thats what i was looken for, good points too. Yea the Adex is cuz i have caps and they are only 1mg so cant break em up. Prob was only going to use it if i got to bloated. Ill also try to cut the deca down to extend it but once again its 275mg/ml so i was just keeping it level with 2ml wk but ill just grab another bottle to make it longer. Also more Ena to make that longer. But hopefully not trying to kill myself with injections so ill make the proper adj. thanks man great feedback

**esca_laid** · 06-18-2009, 12:56 AM

K so here is the cycle Re-Vamp

Week 1 – 6 Prop 100mg EOD
Week 1 – 15 Ena 750mg/wk
Week 1 – 15 Deca 550mg/wk
Week 15-18 Prop 100mg EOD

full PCT 6wks of HCG at end + nolva & clomid

Also I have run Tren A loved the results may run it again but not to sure
Arimidex if needed for water retention or to much estrogen buildup