2nd cycle help

[LickAlotOfPuss]

Anavar or winny what are your guys thought? I'm leaning more towards Anavar heard more positive feedback thus far.




Test Tren Acetate Anavar or Winny Dex

Weeks 1-12 Test, Tren, Dex
weeks 9-12 Anavar or Winny



5'7 173lbs 9%

Diet- 70 g's of fat/ 380 g's protein/roughtly 3,000 calorie--I know i need to increase the calories a bit.



Winny or Anavar??

[c-Z]

5'7 173lbs 9%..... Second cycle? How old are you?

[ninesecz]

they both have thier own effects. it all depends exactly what you want to do!

[c-Z]

they both have thier own effects. it all depends exactly what you want to do!

He needs to eat right... planning second cycle and only 173 at 5'7..........

[LickAlotOfPuss]

He needs to eat right... planning second cycle and only 173 at 5'7..........

Trust me man i eat right, 8% so i have a high motabolizim i'm not a fat dude.8%+173lbs---there no problem with a intermediate second cycle like the one i'm planing. read my grams of carbs and grams of protein it's more than what i need i assure you budy.

[LickAlotOfPuss]

Well i want the cut thats for sure, but i dont it to effect my cardio which i have heard winny does. But i would hate to have to take such a high dosage of var

[c-Z]

What are your goals? If your just trying to stay light and trim why bother with a cycle?

[LickAlotOfPuss]

What are your goals? If your just trying to stay light and trim why bother with a cycle?

I'm looking to bulk and stay trim. No water retention

[c-Z]

If your bulking..... Ide definitely up calories..... And if water retention is an issue. Adex.

My buddy loves winny to... Never used it... but he swears by it.

[Mafiusu]

you running prop or a long ester test

[LickAlotOfPuss]

If your bulking..... Ide definitely up calories..... And if water retention is an issue. Adex.

My buddy loves winny to... Never used it... but he swears by it.

Alright bro thanks for the input! and the calories will come up

[LickAlotOfPuss]

you running prop or a long ester test

long ester thats why my cycle is a bit longer

[Mafiusu]

if thats the case id start the tren ace week 3.

test enanthate (im guessing) 1-12
tren 3-10
var 7-14

or stretch it out a bit and run it a few weeks longer

[LickAlotOfPuss]

if thats the case id start the tren ace week 3.

test enanthate (im guessing) 1-12
tren 3-10
var 7-14

or stretch it out a bit and run it a few weeks longer

yeah now that i think about it, an extra too weeks would be better, and yes it's enanthate, but what start tren week 3?

[Mafiusu]

give the test a chance to reach peak levels

[lovbyts]

5'7 173lbs 9%..... Second cycle? How old are you?

Seemed to pass up this question like a lot of people......

[c-Z]

Damn how did i miss that..... I'm going against my own rules.

[LickAlotOfPuss]

Damn how did i miss that..... I'm going against my own rules.

ok i forgot to state my age, 22 is that old enough or should i wait 2 years?