Deca and EQ together

**Test247** · 06-19-2009, 12:48 PM

I am about to start a new cycle... I was considering...

Deca 500mg wk
EQ 800mg wk
TestC 250mg wk

The test is so low because much more than 250mg a week I break out pretty bad and I am very gyno prone even with significant doses of novaldex, so I figured I'd bump up the other compounds and just support natural suppression with test.

Main question here is... is there any issues running Deca/EQ together, I thought I had come across something about that some time in the past but I can't really remember.

If not Im starting this afternoon

Thanks guys.

28/M/205/8%/6'/5 cycles

**Mafiusu** · 06-19-2009, 12:51 PM

no issues with running them together.. i dont but many do

**Test247** · 06-19-2009, 01:06 PM

any reason you dont? I thought I remember there being something in common with them? prolactin or something? I maybe off

**Seattle Junk** · 06-19-2009, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Test247

I am about to start a new cycle... I was considering...

Deca 500mg wk
EQ 800mg wk
TestC 250mg wk

The test is so low because much more than 250mg a week I break out pretty bad and I am very gyno prone even with significant doses of novaldex, so I figured I'd bump up the other compounds and just support natural suppression with test.

Main question here is... is there any issues running Deca/EQ together, I thought I had come across something about that some time in the past but I can't really remember.

If not Im starting this afternoon

Thanks guys.

28/M/205/8%/6'/5 cycles

You can take SERMS to limit the side effects of test. Are you not concerned about the side form DECA? I know I break out horrible on DECA. I use Armidex and I have no problems with test e.

I think EQ + test is sufficient in my opinion, DECA not necessary. But I would like to see something like 500mgs test and 800mgs EQ.

**Mafiusu** · 06-19-2009, 01:16 PM

no prolactin issues with EQ. not with either really as you could run deca alone and prolactin levels will stay in line. its estrogen that raises prolactin.

just havent.. many say they are great together. i use them for two different purposes so havent incorporated them both into the same cycle.. thats all

**Test247** · 06-19-2009, 01:25 PM

Yes I do use SERMS with test for the gyno, problem is I had bad SERMs once that caused me to get gyno, so now I have to be quite careful or it flares up quickly. Thats controllable, however I still get bad body acne on test, never any on the face... I can controll it upto about 375mg a week with nizoral and tanning, but at 500mg I cant anymore. Ive run a couple 500mg cycles, but I dont want the acne again.

Ive run Deca before and never had any acne from it, didnt know anyone gets acne from it.

**Loaded6161** · 06-19-2009, 01:26 PM

why only 250mg of test a week?

**Test247** · 06-19-2009, 01:33 PM

Acne

**Test247** · 06-19-2009, 10:23 PM

anyone really get acne on deca ? I never had, but what mechanism would it even do that?

**seriousmass** · 06-19-2009, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Test247

anyone really get acne on deca? I never had, but what mechanism would it even do that?

nope. deca is pretty user-friendly. and i can definitely sympathize with you, I know many people who can't bump the test dosage <300mg EW.

Regarding your question, I wouldn't run the EQ and deca together. I think you could come up with a much better cycle then that! EQ is such a mild compound IMO.

How about something like this..

Test-C (weeks 1 - 16) @ 250mg
Deca (weeks 1 - 14) @ 600mg
D-bol (weeks 1 - 6) @ 50mg ED

IF you really want to run the EQ for increased vascularity / hunger, etc... then I'd run it like in combo with the cycle i suggested above ^^, with..

EQ (weeks 1 - 15) @ 800 - 900mg EW.

**Test247** · 06-20-2009, 02:29 PM

I was planning on DBOL actually as well, I respond pretty well to it. I would like the hunger and vasculatiry of EQ as I bloat up a bit on high levels of DECA . I like your cycle I will probably do that but 500 on deca and 800-1000 on the EQ.

Hoping to wind up about 220 @8% when this is finished is the goal. I have a hard time maintaining anything past 205 unless my fat is upto 12-13% then Im about 215 after any cycle. So im really hoping for it this time around.

Thanks for the info and good to hear Im not the only one that can only run small doses of test.

My buddy is 5'10' 245 and he runs a gram a week of test no issues whatsoever and has round the clock for years.

**Ashop** · 06-20-2009, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Test247

I am about to start a new cycle... I was considering...

Deca 500mg wk
EQ 800mg wk
TestC 250mg wk

The test is so low because much more than 250mg a week I break out pretty bad and I am very gyno prone even with significant doses of novaldex, so I figured I'd bump up the other compounds and just support natural suppression with test.

Main question here is... is there any issues running Deca/EQ together, I thought I had come across something about that some time in the past but I can't really remember.

If not Im starting this afternoon

Thanks guys.

28/M/205/8%/6'/5 cycles

I do beleive they have synergistic effect when ran together. I think you would do fine on 400mg of DECA and 400mg of EQ per week,,bump the TEST to 500mg wk.

**The Deuce** · 06-21-2009, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by ****

I do beleive they have synergistic effect when ran together. I think you would do fine on 400mg of DECA and 400mg of EQ per week,,bump the TEST to 500mg wk.

Really Deca and EQ working synergistically together to create a more profound gain?? I have to admit I have NEVER heard of that... ESPECIALLY with EQ at that low of a dose.... From my knowledge EQ does pretty much nothing unless it is at minimum of 600mgs EW ... optimum of 800mgs EW and the best at a Gram per week ran for a Minimum of 14 weeks Optimum 16 and Even better between 18-20 weeks right??

But does the addition of DECA and EQ make it allowable to have the effects of equipoise become apparent at 400mgs???

The only thing i noticed with EQ was muscle hardness, minimal vascularity that I dont think I can attribute that to the EQ and a major spike in hunger... which I know was the EQ... I couldnt get enough food.. I'd EAT and BANG hungry again... When I ran it I could easily consume between 6000-7000 (healthy) calories per day and still be hungry. That is the only thing that I would EVER take EQ again for... spike in HUNGER and APPETITE !!!

But I am curious as to what you have brought to my attention ****... EQ and DECA... 400 + 400 ... this is really... Low in my eyes for EQ... not for DECA .. I prefer my DECA at that dose actually.. any higher and my sides went NUTS... ACNE, Bloat.. THAT ughhhh feeling.. lethargic.. just felt like hell... anyways...

Back to it at hand you can honestly say that there would be a big enough difference to add EQ in a cycle of 500test + 400deca + 400eq and notice more than 500test + 400deca ?? I just don't see that happening.. I just see money being thrown out the window there.. That's just my opinion... but if I am wrong PLEASE by all means correct me!!

**seriousmass** · 06-21-2009, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Test247

I was planning on DBOL actually as well, I respond pretty well to it. I would like the hunger and vasculatiry of EQ as I bloat up a bit on high levels of DECA. I like your cycle I will probably do that but 500 on deca and 800-1000 on the EQ.

Nice nice. Glad you liked my proposed cycle. I was kinda going out on a limb there. Anyways, good call on the EQ. I definitely think you need 800mg - a gram a week to see effective results.

Have a fun cycle man. PM me if you need anymore ideas on how to stack for this. (I have a couple more ideas on how to backload this particular cycle)

Originally Posted by The Deuce

Really Deca and EQ working synergistically together to create a more profound gain?? I have to admit I have NEVER heard of that...

Well actually a lot of people opt out of using EQ and deca in the same stack. Some people say they aren't as effective when used together. But if you're just using the EQ for vascularity / hunger then stacking it with a compound like deca is completely fine.

**The Deuce** · 06-21-2009, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by seriousmass

Well actually a lot of people opt out of using EQ and deca in the same stack. Some people say they aren't as effective when used together. But if you're just using the EQ for vascularity / hunger then stacking it with a compound like deca is completely fine.

Ahh i see.. i personally like i said wouldn't run the compounds together.. The only time I will ever combine more than TWO injectable AAS compounds ever in my life again is Prop/Tren /Mast cycle or the Cyp/TrenE/Primo combo... pretty much the same type of cycle really... I prefer Methenolone Enanthate over Drostanolone Enanthate when going the long ester way... WHY you may ask... the answer is simple.. PRIMO is my Fave Fave Fave compound EVER ... other than the two obvious first and seconds so I guess it would make it my third fave compound over TEST/TREN ... LOL...