First Cycle _ Test Enanthate

**sizerp** · 06-20-2009, 04:55 PM

Age:23
Height:5'10"
Weight:205
BF:9-10%
Training:Played ice hockey for 15+ years, focus on BBing for about a year.
Goals:Bulk.
Diet:In check. ~4000kcal clean, wheat, soy, and dairy free. Limit 1 shake/day.

Weeks 1-10:
*Test E. @ 250mg/week. Shot every 3.5 days.
*L-Dex @ .25mg ED.

Weeks 9-12
*HCG @ 250I.U. x2/week.

Weeks 12-13
*Tamoxifen @ 40mg ED
*Clomiphene @ 60mg ED

Weeks 14-15
*Tamoxifen @ 20mg ED
*Clomiphene @ 40mg ED
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Pretty basic.
What you think? Also - should I start the L-Dex on day of first injection? How is my HCG timing? Thanks.
*Got measured!

**sizerp** · 06-20-2009, 05:46 PM

Another quick question regarding DHT blockers - should I run finasteride through this cycle, and when should I administer it? Week before hand?

**Alphatier** · 06-20-2009, 05:54 PM

Why the DHT blocker?

Are you prone to MPT?

**sizerp** · 06-20-2009, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by lean n' mean

Why the DHT blocker?

Are you prone to MPT?

Well I've got a full head - but I sure don't want to find out. My dad is in his 50s and just started going bald on top a bit - however he isn't shooting Test either :P

**sizerp** · 06-20-2009, 07:06 PM

Nobody?

**HIITB$** · 06-20-2009, 07:12 PM

Everything looks good to me and looks like you did you're homework but how come only 10 week cycle? IMO id want to run it at least 12 weeks since you're running Enanth

**Critical Mass** · 06-20-2009, 07:13 PM

You should look at the men on your mothers side. If they are bold then you can get bold on aas.

**sizerp** · 06-20-2009, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by HIITB$

Everything looks good to me and looks like you did you're homework but how come only 10 week cycle? IMO id want to run it at least 12 weeks since you're running Enanth

Well - since it's my first time cycling I chose 10. Money is also somewhat of an issue since I'm still in school.

Originally Posted by omna82

You should look at the men on your mothers side. If they are bold then you can get bold on aas.

Not many to compare to, her dad (grandfather) has been passed away for many years, and her only surviving brother is somewhat bald, but he's older.

**HIITB$** · 06-20-2009, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by sizerp

Well - since it's my first time cycling I chose 10. Money is also somewhat of an issue since I'm still in school.

With TestE you prolly wont see anything until the 4-5 week mark so honestly i think itd be more of a waste to do a short cycle than to spend the lil extra for another vial to do a full cycle and reap the full benefit. Just my .02 though something for you to think about

**sizerp** · 06-20-2009, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by HIITB$

With TestE you prolly wont see anything until the 4-5 week mark so honestly i think itd be more of a waste to do a short cycle than to spend the lil extra for another vial to do a full cycle and reap the full benefit. Just my .02 though something for you to think about

Hmm, so do you think 10 weeks would really be a huge waste? If so, I'll postpone the cycle.

**HIITB$** · 06-20-2009, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by sizerp

Hmm, so do you think 10 weeks would really be a huge waste? If so, I'll postpone the cycle.

No i dont think it'd be a HUGE waste just id rather do a 12-14 week cycle and reap the full benefit of doing a cycle. Guess depends on your goals ya know..You dont have the $$ to pick up another vial? i mean it isnt really that much homie

**Alphatier** · 06-20-2009, 07:28 PM

I think 10 weeks isn't a waste at all.

Most recommend 12 weeks for a first cycle, thou I have many friends that did 10 weeks and got great results too.

So I'd say go for it!

**sizerp** · 06-20-2009, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by HIITB$

No i dont think it'd be a HUGE waste just id rather do a 12-14 week cycle and reap the full benefit of doing a cycle. Guess depends on your goals ya know..You dont have the $$ to pick up another vial? i mean it isnt really that much homie

Yeah it's not that much, it will just put a slight delay into my planning ; -)

**sizerp** · 06-20-2009, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by lean n' mean

I think 10 weeks isn't a waste at all.

Most recommend 12 weeks for a first cycle, thou I have many friends that did 10 weeks and got great results too.

So I'd say go for it!

Thanks for this insight.

**Alphatier** · 06-20-2009, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by sizerp

Thanks for this insight.

Anytime bro.

So did you decide to put it off and get some more test?

Either way, good luck.

**HIITB$** · 06-20-2009, 07:43 PM

Normally if you hear someone doing a 10week cylce its with TestProp because it works faster so you get more out of a shorter cycle.

Honestly if it's your first cyle if its only going to delay you a bit id wait and get the extr vial or start and you have 10 weeks to get another one lol Then you can extend it if you want or you feel you want to stop at 10 you can do that also. At least with your first if you run 12 you'll know if you want to go that long again or you can make that judgement call from there on out

**PistolPete33** · 06-20-2009, 07:43 PM

What type of gains and setbacks can you expect with a Test E Cycle?

**sizerp** · 06-20-2009, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by HIITB$

Normally if you hear someone doing a 10week cylce its with TestProp because it works faster so you get more out of a shorter cycle.

Honestly if it's your first cyle if its only going to delay you a bit id wait and get the extr vial or start and you have 10 weeks to get another one lol Then you can extend it if you want or you feel you want to stop at 10 you can do that also. At least with your first if you run 12 you'll know if you want to go that long again or you can make that judgement call from there on out

That sounds most logical - I'll probably wait to get the extra vial in case I slip up, drop the damn thing or something, and plan on 12 weeks.

**Alphatier** · 06-20-2009, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by PistolPete33

What type of gains and setbacks can you expect with a Test E Cycle?

Anyways to answer your question, it is all dependant on your diet.

I'd suggest doing some serious research before jumping on AAS.

Side effects include bloat, acne,MPB, gyno.........