switch from prop to enth..

**Ripped Mass** · 06-21-2009, 10:32 AM

6'4 230 lbs.
30 y.o.
14% BF
Okay guys just started taking test prop(two weeks now) 100mg. EOD, at first the injections were not too bad, only in my delts, but it seems like the more often I shoot the pain is getting WORSE not better! I am rotating both delts and both cheeks, unless its delt day have to shoot the butt again, have little flexibility in there almost right after shooting. I have a physical day job and my ass was so sore the end of last week I could barely walk straight much less do my job effectively...how could I switch up to enthanate (have access to 300mg) in the middle of this cycle OR if I could make it to the end of the cycle run one bottle of enth. at the end? I started with 5 bottles of prop but only getting about 8 cc's out of a supposed 10ml. bottle, so might want to make it a 14-15 week cycle instead of a 10 weeker depending on my results at the end. Also proper PCT when to start and such with the enth. at the end, have 100 clomid 50mg and 50 nolvadex 20mg on hand.

Also is ZMA a complete waste of money while juicing? Been taking it forever just don't want to be throwing money away for no reason!

**Mafiusu** · 06-21-2009, 10:38 AM

id start the enanthate but continue with the prop for a few more weeks while in the enanthate.
pct is 2 weeks after the enanthate

**Ripped Mass** · 06-21-2009, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Mafiusu

id start the enanthate but continue with the prop for a few more weeks while in the enanthate.
pct is 2 weeks after the enanthate

So if I decide to change in the middle of the cycle run prop for about two weeks along with 600mg enth? Then if I go back to prop just like pct start up after two weeks last shot of enth?
When running PCT was going to do 150mg PD Clomid for one or two weeks, then taper down...do I take all 150mg in the morning or spread out into doses?

**bjpennnn** · 06-21-2009, 01:34 PM

lol man it up

**bjpennnn** · 06-21-2009, 01:35 PM

no pain no gain start hitting your quads

**Ripped Mass** · 06-21-2009, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by bjpennnn

no pain no gain start hitting your quads

F that crap...I am not like most people and get to sit on my butt behind a desk all day...otherwise I would consider it!

**seriousmass** · 06-21-2009, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by chamberman1979

F that crap...I am not like most people and get to sit on my butt behind a desk all day...otherwise I would consider it!

LOL. Can't take prop-pain hey?

Why don't you just man up, and cut the prop with some sterile cottonseed oil, that helps with the pain A LOT.

If you just wait a couple more weeks you'll eventually get use to the soreness, and won't even feel it. I wouldn't b*tch out just yet man.. but just my 2 cents..

**CJBills** · 06-21-2009, 09:03 PM

Before doing anything drastic, why not try to warm up your prop. It may have crystalized and that would result in pain, soreness and stiffness.

Also, make sure you are injecting correctly

How To Inject

**c-Z** · 06-21-2009, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by chamberman1979

So if I decide to change in the middle of the cycle run prop for about two weeks along with 600mg enth? Then if I go back to prop just like pct start up after two weeks last shot of enth?
When running PCT was going to do 150mg PD Clomid for one or two weeks, then taper down...do I take all 150mg in the morning or spread out into doses?

No nolva? 150mg clomid? Too much clomid.

ide run 100/100/50/50 clomid. And nolva 40/40/20/20.

But yes ide say run prop another couple weeks if you can so test E can kick in.