little help

[randym2690]

okay iv been reading alot latly and im stuck between test prop and test e for my first cycle but what iwanna know is can i stack clen on cycle.? iv read big cats indepth clen profile and he said its commonly stacked with steroids and iv read a few forum when stacking with things like tren and winnyv so would i run it just like running clen solo?

stats are currently
15% bf
21 yrs old 5'7 212
first cycle previously ran phs superdrol/halodrol/phera
lookin to gain a solid 15pounds of lbm
i am inlisted in personal trainig school training 5 days a week
cals are 3000/day about 300gs of protien
will bump cals up to around 3500 or 4k

[thai-lan]

stats

Age
Height
Weight
Bodyfat
Diet

[randym2690]

hah just missed my edit i just added them

[c-Z]

21 yrs old 5'7 212. 15% bf. That's quit a bit of weight and a low bf% for someone who has never cycled... Personally I'de wait another year or two.

[Big]

What would be your reasoning for considering prop?

[peachfuzz]

what are your goals for the cycle. are you trying to lean up or are you bulking?

for a first cycle test e is advised. alone. (clen is optional)

[randym2690]

yeah idk i feeel like i waited to i was 21 i was toying around with the idea at 18 but just held it off now that im finally at a good age im ganna go through with it

[thai-lan]

for the first cycle you shouldnt touch anything but Test. You need to know how you react to test first then you can add them on your future cycles . but for the first you should do basic beginners' cycle . Here is a good link for you
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

[randym2690]

iv read several times and have a buddy who told me the bloat from test e sucked so i wanted to go with prop the frequent injections dont bother me im not worried about needles and my goals for this cycle would be a lean bulk with as little fat and bloat as possible

[randym2690]

thanks thai iv read over most of that post besides the diet my uncles a registered dietitian and we go through my diet monthly from reading i know i should stick with test but i have ran clen before and react pretty good to it so i was wondeirng if i could throw it in on my test cycle

[peachfuzz]

test e

run an AI if you are worried about bloat

diet

[randym2690]

i looked into alot of ai's for the bloat and honestly i wish i could say price wasent a problem but that shits expensive and i dont have the money to add it in i was hopin with the prop i would get away from the bloat and as far as the clen goes i already have some on hand so would that help me lean out a little big while cycling?

[thai-lan]

yes sure you could throw it in. Thats what i did on my last cycle and it worked pretty good for me

[randym2690]

okay and just run it as usual? taper up and down 2 weeks at a time?

[peachfuzz]

if you dont have the money to pick up some adex how are you gonna afford your food? what if you get gyno?

what post cycle do you have planned?

[c-Z]

^^^ was going to be my question..... FOOOOD.

[randym2690]

i dont have extra money for an ai? dosent mean i dont have money for food and i have nolva on hand will start with 50 for the first couple days then 40/40/20/20 and will start 10 daily if i have any signs of gyno

[HIITB$]

Go with the Test E man....Pinning ED or EOD is NOT recommended TRUST me lol If you like pinning 2x a week and think you want to pin more than that then go with Prop next cycle.

[peachfuzz]

[randym2690]

alright yeah like i said i was just worried about the bloating but i read it affects different people differently so mabye ill just try my luck thanks for the imput hiit

[HIITB$]

alright yeah like i said i was just worried about the bloating but i read it affects different people differently so mabye ill just try my luck thanks for the imput hiit

No problem, well with the bloat IMO its more about your diet than the ester on the Test. Make sure you're watching your sodium etc and you should really have an AI on hand in case of problems bro