SOURCE CHECKS 101 (or How NOT to get Scammed)Copy

[T-MOS]

Because in Aus sources are hard to come by so its good to have few backups, plus one was offering something which my regular source does not have and im keen to try it later on down the track.

Well, as long as you are aware of your risks. The guidelines are just that, guidelines to help newbies from possible scamming. Hopefully the stuff you got is all legit gear when you try it.

GOOD LUCK !!

[Swifto]

I can't , but a willing VET/MOD can if they choose to.

You would need to PM them and ask if they would be able to give you a source check

I've been giving source checks for ages. Some of the Monitor's do give them, I think. Not just Mods/Vets.

[*Admin*]

See the problem we have been having lately is persons on here (mammon aka mulciber for instance) have been pming each other and sending a source (scammer) then sending them refs as well... now pay attention... they (mammon aka mulciber for instance) are the refs as well her under a different account and say that they have recieved great service etc... (mammon aka mulciber himself aka Tropic aka other-names is one of them he has several)

Many here know and have known who he is and have allowed YOU the newbs and others to be scammed... he scammed here once under the name mulciber and was called out as such and banned... then came back the next day wihout missing a beat to take money still from many more... all the while acting like he had been done so wrong by admins for being banned... when we had the proof of what he had done to many many people... and since so many here decided that they knew better and would harbor mammon he has been allowed to scam again and this time even more people have been taken...
wow wonder what new name he will have this time and how many more can and will be scammed this next time because so many of you think you are getting what you want so easy...




Just so you know it is not our responsibility to take care of or deal with this type of situation at all... we are not a source board and honestly we have the rules in place to try to prevent this... it was your choice not to follow them...


how many times have you seen someone post up I need a source... opening themselves up to scammers such as mammon who immediately pounce on them with a pm saying hey I have the guy for you... email him at ....safe-mail.com if you dont have an account with them make one.... duh that should be a hint...


This is why our monitors work so hard to try to keep this type post of the boards... and yes you can pm with all your questions and all your thoughts and info on this subject I will answer what I can... however I will tell you I have been overwhemed with all the pms on this for the past several weeks with as many as 10 to 12 who jabe been scammed of late and maybe more from this person and then more from some others... sad to say times are tougher and people love to take advantage of easy pry...



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[*Admin*]

I can't , but a willing VET/MOD can if they choose to.

You would need to PM them and ask if they would be able to give you a source check

I've been giving source checks for ages. Some of the Monitor's do give them, I think. Not just Mods/Vets.

Very true we do have a few guys here that will g ive you an honest source check... and if in doubt as to who check around you can see and ask who would be you best options... and please please do not just get one opinion...

[T-MOS]

I've been giving source checks for ages. Some of the Monitor's do give them, I think. Not just Mods/Vets.

Absolutely. I guess I lump us Monitors in with the Mods, as everyone thinks we are MODS anyway.

My point is that they shouldn't settle for a source check from just any member especially those that have only been here a few months. If a newer member recommends a source, then the Monitors, MODS, and VETS, should already know of that source and if they don't, then chances are its a scammer

So, they would be smart to ask the members that have been asked to be Monitors, Mods, or VETS, as that shows that ADMIN has already done background and trusts that we won't be scamming our members.

[gymnerd]

See the problem we have been having lately is persons on here (mammon aka mulciber for instance) have been pming each other and sending a source (scammer) then sending them refs as well... now pay attention... they (mammon aka mulciber for instance) are the refs as well her under a different account and say that they have recieved great service etc... (mammon aka mulciber himself aka Tropic aka other-names is one of them he has several)

Many here know and have known who he is and have allowed YOU the newbs and others to be scammed... he scammed here once under the name mulciber and was called out as such and banned... then came back the next day wihout missing a beat to take money still from many more... all the while acting like he had been done so wrong by admins for being banned... when we had the proof of what he had done to many many people... and since so many here decided that they knew better and would harbor mammon he has been allowed to scam again and this time even more people have been taken...
wow wonder what new name he will have this time and how many more can and will be scammed this next time because so many of you think you are getting what you want so easy...




Just so you know it is not our responsibility to take care of or deal with this type of situation at all... we are not a source board and honestly we have the rules in place to try to prevent this... it was your choice not to follow them...


how many times have you seen someone post up I need a source... opening themselves up to scammers such as mammon who immediately pounce on them with a pm saying hey I have the guy for you... email him at ....safe-mail.com if you dont have an account with them make one.... duh that should be a hint...


This is why our monitors work so hard to try to keep this type post of the boards... and yes you can pm with all your questions and all your thoughts and info on this subject I will answer what I can... however I will tell you I have been overwhemed with all the pms on this for the past several weeks with as many as 10 to 12 who jabe been scammed of late and maybe more from this person and then more from some others... sad to say times are tougher and people love to take advantage of easy pry...



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Thats crazy. He did give me a lead to a couple of sources awhile back 2 that are legit and the one you are talking about here I decided not to use any but, I can see how a younger more eager/desperate person could get scammed easily.

[Matt]

Id like to know that all those scammers, no matter who they are or how long they've been here get banned and arnt allowed to continue..

[*Admin*]

Id like to know that all those scammers, no matter who they are or how long they've been here get banned and arnt allowed to continue..

You can rest assured that as we catch them they are banned.... sometimes we have no choioce but to allow them to stay a week or so extra in hopes that they may make good and others are at risk during that time... it is a 50/50 shot in the dark as to which is best... sad that no one will just except it takes time...


help others not to be scammed... pass the word around...




and y es sometimes a scammer will give you one good source out of a few but always be sure you check the addy of the sopposed good source as well because they may be giving you an addy close to the real source and it be one they have made themselves and will scam you from its been done many times.... and sometimes they give you one good one to hope that you will still use them because they will next try to cinvince you how good a deal you will get from them instead... just watch yourselves....

[Big]

Noobs need to also understand "selective scamming". A scammer comes through on your order, you think all is well, tell all your friends that they are good, maybe even place a larger order yourself, then everyone gets screwed.

[*Admin*]

or you place a small test order and its sent... then you place your big order and bam scammed.... oldest scam in the book...

[CBGB]

Great Read!!!!! Thanks a lot.

[CptAmericaX]

Yah this is a really good thread I just wish more would read it

[stangmatt06]

Great Post!

[MMArmour]

bump.

[almostgone]

A legitimate question that can't be instantly found using the search function isn't stupid. A legitimate question about a proposed cycle or PCT isn't stupid....also, there is the diet forum...God knows I've got plenty to learn there...then there is the supplement forum...the lifting forum...the injury forum (wish none of us needed that).....powerlifting forum..etc. If you really think about it 100 posts isn't that many if you address multiple aspects of bodybuilding/lifting.

AG

How do you really get a 100 posts without post whoring or asking stupid questions?

[rawdigginz26]

Thanks man that was good info.

[tyward]

OK, so I'm feeling a little left out. I've never been contacted by a scammer. Is it my age? They don't try to rip off older guys, I wonder why? LOL

[Phate]

OK, so I'm feeling a little left out. I've never been contacted by a scammer. Is it my age? They don't try to rip off older guys, I wonder why? LOL

pm sent lol

[CptAmericaX]

not defending mammon, but that is such a shocker when I first got on this board her helped me with alot of dumb questions i had through pms because I was to embaressed to post, later I confirmed that info threw other posts he never once sent me a source. Again im not defending him im still 2 new to the board to be tied up in stuff like that. But this is my bump, beings how people are posting stupid in the past couple hours

[higherdesire]

upsy daisy

[*Admin*]

He was helpful here under each of his many names... however he still scammed members out of money... end of story...


see guys thing is if you take money from someone and you do not have the p roducts on hand to send out then you have scammed... yes there is a vauge possiblity that he could by them and g et them to some... which I would love to see happen but since he cut off communication with most after the first week or so that tells me he doesnt plan on it... NOW just so you know I have not stopped him from coming here to this board he had not logged in for 6 days when I banned him... soooo as stated he has done this in the past this is not his first go round...

[chipfsu301]

Great advice!!!

[CBGB]

Man, all of this scamming lately is just crap. Thanks to all of you guys that watch our backs!!!

[Hazard]

WOW..... just found out. What a shame...... It doesn't surprise me tho...... it's happened before and i'm sure it'll happen again. Everyone just needs to be aware of problems like this.

If you are buying anything from ANYONE here...... (not recommending it) - you better be prepared to lose all the money you sent..... if you actually get your products..... great. Good for you....

~Haz~

[higherdesire]

when I get to the bottom i go back the top again, when i get to the bottom I will see you again, see you again...

[freddyfresh33]

now i know the rules thx gentlemen

[sirrah2508]

great post man hope everyone here gets time to have a read of it

[Dougie-DOU99Y]

Yup great post, thanks for the advice guys

[BigIce]

Maybe too late for some of us though

Well, live and learn

[higherdesire]

up up and away!

[markielt1]

thanks hear there are alot of scams

[T-MOS]

back to the top

[shotgun1978]

Good information. The difficult part of it is that you have to try to find this "source" for yourself and attempt to verify its validity. In just a few days I have looked at all sorts of websites that I can tell aren't legit just by looking at them.

On the flipside I respect the fact that this is a tight knit group and you have to protect yourself...hopefully the more educated I get the easier it will be to find that source.

[JiGGaMaN]

how do i know when i will receive my goods?

[Misery13]

Unfortunately we have several here that think its cool to scam members that do not understaand that they need a source check from a reputable person not a made up account in favor of the scammer....

that sucks...thank you for the great post...

[higherdesire]

Good information. The difficult part of it is that you have to try to find this "source" for yourself and attempt to verify its validity. In just a few days I have looked at all sorts of websites that I can tell aren't legit just by looking at them.

On the flipside I respect the fact that this is a tight knit group and you have to protect yourself...hopefully the more educated I get the easier it will be to find that source.

^^^Great example of a post that will get you scammed by a real helpful member

[MMArmour]

bump

[bma33]

Are you NEW to the world of steroids ?

Are you impatient about finding REAL steroids online?

Are you asking for sources in your posts? Or posting your email address in hopes some NICE guy will contact you and sell you illegal substances without knowing who you are or if you are Law Enforcement?

If you answered YES to any or all of the above questions, then YOU my friend are a prime candidate for getting scammed !

Scammers prey on NEWBIES like you because they know you don't know how things work in the online world of Steroids. They know you are in a hurry and want to find them as quickly as possible without waiting around

THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW TO PREVENT GETTING SCAMMED!!

1. NEVER ask for sources in ANY post you make in the open forums

2. NEVER put your email address in ANY post in the open forums

3. NEVER look like you are impatient to find a source or to have your source checked

4. NO legit source will EVER contact you to offer you illegal substances (can you see how much sense that would NOT make?) SO , ANYONE that contacts you with ANY reason saying that they have a source, will be LYING to you and trying to SCAM you !!

5. IF any member of this board contacts you offering any source, you should immediately forward that to *ADMIN* so that we can get rid of them from this board

6. From time to time, someone creates a ROBOT account and posts what may look like a Legitimate Website to sell Steroids. These are 100% SCAMMERS. They get on here in hopes that newbies will fall for them since they look like a legit website!! NEVER buy from a website that posts on the open forums as this Site would NEVER allow a site to advertise ILLEGAL substances here. BE WARNED !!

THE ONLY WAY TO GET A SOURCE CHECK

1. You must be a member of this board in good standing for a minimum of 45 days.

2. You must have a minimum of 100 quality posts. (postwhoring doesn't count)

3. Then and ONLY then, you can PM a WILLING VET/MOD to ask about your source. (DO NOT ask in the open forum for them to PM you!)

4. NEVER order anything without getting your source checked by the VETS/MODS. DO NOT count on other members to give you references as scammers will OFTEN make multiple accounts in order to give out references for themselves.

5. DO NOT settle for just ONE source check. There have been dishonest mods/vets in the past, so make sure you get confirmation from at least two or three VETS/MODS BEFORE you ever order anything online.


IF you can not follow these guidelines, then you are setting yourself up to be scammed. Do NOT come crying to this board if you have been scammed after you chose not to follow these steps.

Great info from one of the ones that needs it most thank you

[subaruwrx04]

Needs to be a STICKY

[T-MOS]

nobody reads the stickies :-(