How much can Halotestin bring my bench up in 8 weeks?

**Baron** · 06-26-2009, 10:22 PM

Lets say im on testprop and anavar and im doing 225lb for 12-14 reps right now, how many more reps should i be able to squeeze out after 8 weeks of solid training/eating/ + halotestin 40mg ED. What you guys think? give me a rough estimate.

**abstrack** · 06-26-2009, 10:28 PM

are you a power lifter?

**Iron_Pig** · 06-26-2009, 10:28 PM

Are powerlifting or BB ?

**Baron** · 06-26-2009, 10:44 PM

neither, i play football

**abstrack** · 06-26-2009, 10:53 PM

Then who really cares. Its nothing but a number.

If you're doing 225 for reps. I would say your above average.

If you want to get serious about pushing up weight, then change your style & technique of lifting, and work like a power lifter.

Based on the basic info you just gave me, and I am assuming. You are training more like a body builder. I dont know your whole routine, but it's an assumption.

**abstrack** · 06-26-2009, 10:56 PM

Here's the second thing I just noticed. Your using compounds that are normally used for cutting. Again, I am just throwing this out there. You're training like a BB'er.

I would be using different gear if my goal was to push my bragging rights up in the ranks.

**bene7422** · 06-26-2009, 10:59 PM

are you talking about running halo for 8 wks?

**Noles12** · 06-26-2009, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by abstrack

Here's the second thing I just noticed. Your using compounds that are normally used for cutting. Again, I am just throwing this out there. You're training like a BB'er.

I would be using different gear if my goal was to push my bragging rights up in the ranks.

Yes he is using gear that is said it may assist in cutting but he could easily bulk with that cycle. It's all dependent on diet

**Alphatier** · 06-26-2009, 11:01 PM

I believe that after 8 weeks of Halo your liver is going to be toast.

Personally, I would NOT exceed 4 weeks, especially for the first time.

Also for my first go with halo I'd prolly run it around 20-30mgs. JMO thou

**Dancer** · 06-26-2009, 11:04 PM

Did we cover this already...

8 weeks of solid diet and training I say 25-30 reps just a guess though

**bene7422** · 06-26-2009, 11:09 PM

I agree that 8 wks is way to long for halo it is a very liver toxic compound.also were you planning on running any test with it?

**HIITB$** · 06-26-2009, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Dancer

Did we cover this already...

8 weeks of solid diet and training I say 25-30 reps just a guess though

lmao....its the first time anyone actually even addressed the mans question. I was curious about his question too so thanx for throwing that out there

This site is pretty damn good but

asking a question and having people say unnecssary things like you're above average, why do you care? or you're cycle is meant for this or that when it has NOTHING to do with the questions is a little out of whack....Sometimes i agree it's called for but...
He's in college playing football and want to get stronger while increasing his endurance and you're trying to tell him what to do? kick rox i dont think he was asking that at all!

**TractionIssues** · 06-26-2009, 11:36 PM

134.78445 lbs. in 8 weeks, if you divide the subatomic square root of the alpha and the 0mega of a velociraptor that eats e=mc2 for breakfast.

**Baron** · 06-27-2009, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by HIITB$

lmao....its the first time anyone actually even addressed the mans question. I was curious about his question too so thanx for throwing that out there

This site is pretty damn good but

asking a question and having people say unnecssary things like you're above average, why do you care? or you're cycle is meant for this or that when it has NOTHING to do with the questions is a little out of whack....Sometimes i agree it's called for but...
He's in college playing football and want to get stronger while increasing his endurance and you're trying to tell him what to do? kick rox i dont think he was asking that at all!

Yeah well see the problem is on the internet everyone is a personal trainer/doctor/professional athlete/specialist. Whatever knowledge they happen to have read up on is automatically the bible.

What humors me the most is they probably have no were near the type of experience to give me a rough answer, so they resort to responding to questions no1 even asked (as you also stated) Its actually quite hilarious, i don't need to watch comedy channels i just come here and look at them go at it. And they take themselves so seriously, "WHAT YOU'R DOING THAT?? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? NO YOU DONT WANNA DO THAT!!", yet appear so foolish.

**gymnerd** · 06-27-2009, 11:59 AM

Well if this guy is playing ncaa football I know they are tested on 225 for how many reps they can get at the combine so maybe this is why this guy is looking to up his bench numbers is that it OP?

**Alphatier** · 06-27-2009, 12:10 PM

Well then I allow me to apologize for giving you advice which I thought would benefit your health.

And what Abstrack was trying to say was that if you're looking for strength increases you could've used other drugs.

Oh, and yeah you're right, knowledge doesn't come from reading and doing research....either your born with it or not, right?

**HIITB$** · 06-27-2009, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by gymnerd

Well if this guy is playing ncaa football I know they are tested on 225 for how many reps they can get at the combine so maybe this is why this guy is looking to up his bench numbers is that it OP?

Yup exactly he's playing NCAA football where endurance and strength is HUGE so he's trying to improve it. See you got it

**HIITB$** · 06-27-2009, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by lean n' mean

Well then I allow me to apologize for giving you advice which I thought would benefit your health.

And what Abstrack was trying to say was that if you're looking for strength increases you could've used other drugs.

Oh, and yeah you're right, knowledge doesn't come from reading and doing research....either your born with it or not, right?

My rant wasnt directed at you and i understand someone saying that "hey man 8 weeks of Halo is prolly not safe" thats cool in my book but when people start telling you dont need to improve your bench for football because you're already above average unless you want to be a powerlifter? WTF lmao...Ive never heard of college football player that didnt want to increase strength and endurance. 1. Powerlifters aren't trying to increase their endurance on a weight 2. Benchpressing is not lift soley for Bodybuilders!

Even if they were and he's been doing it and it got him to college football level well he's prolly doing something right! just sayin....

No one is born knowing anything....just like telling someone that plays college sports how they should be lifting or not concerned with lifting because you're above average when the question was about how much strength endurace increase he'd get out of it. You were born knowing what people's goals are, and what they're tring to achieve? Or you were born knowing everyone has the same goals as you? you see where im at?

**Baron** · 06-27-2009, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by lean n' mean

Well then I allow me to apologize for giving you advice which I thought would benefit your health.

And what Abstrack was trying to say was that if you're looking for strength increases you could've used other drugs.

Oh, and yeah you're right, knowledge doesn't come from reading and doing research....either your born with it or not, right?

My name is lean n' mean, i am a goldmine of sarcastic replies. You will learn nothing from me, other than i do not like being put in my place, and i am very sarcastic. Oh yeah, oral steroids aren't healthy for the liver, be careful! Gentleman, that is all.

**Baron** · 06-27-2009, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by HIITB$

My rant wasnt directed at you and i understand someone saying that "hey man 8 weeks of Halo is prolly not safe" thats cool in my book but when people start telling you dont need to improve your bench for football because you're already above average unless you want to be a powerlifter? WTF lmao...Ive never heard of college football player that didnt want to increase strength and endurance. 1. Powerlifters aren't trying to increase their endurance on a weight 2. Benchpressing is not lift soley for Bodybuilders!

Even if they were and he's been doing it and it got him to college football level well he's prolly doing something right! just sayin....

No one is born knowing anything....just like telling someone that plays college sports how they should be lifting or not concerned with lifting because you're above average when the question was about how much strength endurace increase he'd get out of it. You were born knowing what people's goals are, and what they're tring to achieve? Or you were born knowing everyone has the same goals as you? you see where im at?

Like i stated previously, these guys only know a very tiny bit of information, so right off the bat hes gonna go str8 for that liver crap. "YEAH BUT TEH LIVER.." Anyone with half a brain cell would know that your rant wasnt directed at him, but again...hes got nothing else to say.

Lesson learned: this is no place for an athlete to get advice on improving his game, mainly just a place to argue over how to get the biggest biceps.

**HIITB$** · 06-27-2009, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Baron

Like i stated previously, these guys only know a very tiny bit of information, so right off the bat hes gonna go str8 for that liver crap. "YEAH BUT TEH LIVER.." Anyone with half a brain cell would know that your rant wasnt directed at him, but again...hes got nothing else to say.

Lesson learned: this is no place for an athlete to get advice on improving his game, mainly just a place to argue over how to get the biggest biceps.

Well to the forums credit, there are some very knowledgable and helpful guys here. I've learned a lot and honestly im not into bodybuilding either...i mean i respect the hell out of it and may try my hand it later in life but right now i play other sports. So...yeah im doing anabolics but im also trying to increase my lactic threshold, explosive power etc...so i understand what you're saying. The problem is a lot of atheletes have no idea about anabolics other than "locker room gospel" lol so you have to kind of combine the two.

**Test247** · 06-27-2009, 03:42 PM

Before I ever touched juice I could do 225x13 at 165lbs. Im now 205lbs @6' best on cycle of Tren /Test/EQ was 225x22. However I wasnt training for reps of 225. You get lift specific strength.

If your training for reps of 225 as many as you can do thats one thing, if your trying to get as strong as possible for a 1 rep lift on bench thats a nother...

**gymnerd** · 06-27-2009, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Baron

My name is lean n' mean, i am a goldmine of sarcastic replies. You will learn nothing from me, other than i do not like being put in my place, and i am very sarcastic. Oh yeah, oral steroids aren't healthy for the liver, be careful! Gentleman, that is all.

Bro with all due respect he was giving you solid Advise take it for what its worth you are way out of line here IMO.

**Baron** · 06-28-2009, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by gymnerd

Bro with all due respect he was giving you solid Advise take it for what its worth you are way out of line here IMO.

ok gym nerd, watever you say "bro"

**wharton** · 06-28-2009, 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by Baron

Lets say im on testprop and anavar and im doing 225lb for 12-14 reps right now, how many more reps should i be able to squeeze out after 8 weeks of solid training/eating/ + halotestin 40mg ED. What you guys think? give me a rough estimate.

If you wanna do 255 for more reps, My goal would be to increase my max bench about 80lb that should give you another 8 reps+ so run var+tesp for 4 weeks together eat like a mofo, then add in halo for the last 4 weeks, if you can get your bench up in the first 6wk, In the last 2wks with halo you should be hitting double your reps+

**Alphatier** · 06-28-2009, 09:00 AM

Thanks for your input gymnerd.

First of all Baron, when did you put me in my place? I never said "don't use that compound" or "you should've used this compound".

All I did was give you advice on HOW to run a certain compound.

Now to your question about how much your bench will go up, do you honestly think anybody can tell you how many more reps you will get out of cycling halo?

Everybody is different, you might get 5 more reps, or you might get 10, nobody knows. You may want to check out the Powerlifting Forum we have on this board.

As far as your reply goes, I think you were out of line there. Now me, I really could care less if somebody insultet me over the internet, but you will get nowhere with this kind of attitude, not on an internet forum, and not in real life.

I told you before how I would run halo, but really it's your decision in the end.

And btw, it seems to me that YOU are the one that doesn't like to be out in his place, I mean else you would've responded differently to gymnerd.

**Baron** · 06-28-2009, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by lean n' mean

Thanks for your input gymnerd.

First of all Baron, when did you put me in my place? I never said "don't use that compound" or "you should've used this compound".

All I did was give you advice on HOW to run a certain compound.

Now to your question about how much your bench will go up, do you honestly think anybody can tell you how many more reps you will get out of cycling halo?

Everybody is different, you might get 5 more reps, or you might get 10, nobody knows. You may want to check out the Powerlifting Forum we have on this board.

As far as your reply goes, I think you were out of line there. Now me, I really could care less if somebody insultet me over the internet, but you will get nowhere with this kind of attitude, not on an internet forum, and not in real life.

I told you before how I would run halo, but really it's your decision in the end.

And btw, it seems to me that YOU are the one that doesn't like to be out in his place, I mean else you would've responded differently to gymnerd.

well said, but keep gym nerd out of this.

**Alphatier** · 06-28-2009, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Baron

well said, but keep gym nerd out of this.

Fair enough, and good luck with whatever you decided to run.

**Immortal Soldier** · 06-28-2009, 10:15 PM

Baron are you on the high school football team or NCAA?

**mult1pass** · 06-28-2009, 10:32 PM

your current rep range is way too low for your size. Halo is ****ing major androgenic and with that increased aggression and all the other shit you are doing i would think you should be pushing 18-20 pretty easy after 4 weeks. do not un that shit for 8 or you will turn yellow from the jaundice

**Baron** · 06-29-2009, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by immortal soldier

baron are you on the high school football team or ncaa?

ncaa

**abstrack** · 06-29-2009, 10:59 PM

I dont claim to be the bible, but I have helped many people from Athletes to children with disabilities.

You want my credentials? They dont mean noting to me! For shits and giggles I hold 4 certifications. One from the NASM, one from APEX, one from the IFPA, and I also hold a nutritional cert from APEX.

There are guys & gals with no certificates that run circles around me when it comes to the knowledge of the iron.

He asked about his bench going up, and was very vague. I told you I had assumptions based on a vague description.

I could throw out numbers like a lottery based on a vague assumption. I didnt think that was appropriate either. Thats what your gym buddies and training partners are there for.

My advice was to change his style of training, based on my assumptions.

Again. I am no body building bible or authority on PL, sports training, or physical therapy, but I do have a verifiable track record of helping clients of all aspects of life.