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    first cycle test cyp and oxymeth

    i am running my first `proper cycle`. i have test cyp 20ml and am planning 10 weeks at 500mg a week. i am also running the oxymeth for the first month to kick start. i have nolvadex for after, my questions are ;

    1. is nolvadex sufficient by itself for pct or do i need clomid or hgc
    2. how long shud i run the nolvadex for
    3. when should i start using the nolvadex and how long after last injection shout i start pct

    be very grateful for help from more experienced people
    cheers

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    Iwould use clomid as well for pct it starts 18 days after last shot of test and would run for 4 weeks

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    iv been training for about 3 years. last year properly tho put on about 2 stone last year an feel like im ready to run a corse, i did use dianabol for a month about 6 months ago gained 10 pounds but didnt do any pct an lost libido which was a twat!!

    so start both clomid and nolva 18 days after, in what dose would clomid be?

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    Nolvadex should be ran for 4 weeks 40/40/20/20

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    I would run
    clomid 100/50/50/50
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    i will do that cheers
    do u not think i need hgc?
    and also what if i start to notice shut down and ball shrinkage after say 6 weeks would u advice something during my corse?

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    thats when you would use hcg

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    alrite sound nice 1 m8

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    Quote Originally Posted by youdzy09 View Post
    i will do that cheers
    do u not think i need hgc?
    and also what if i start to notice shut down and ball shrinkage after say 6 weeks would u advice something during my corse?
    you may or may not even get shrinkage. Can you not live with some smaller nuts for a few months? IMO Hcg really isnt needed in this case but thats up to you.

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    yeh i can deal wid the smaller nuts lol an would rather not use hgc
    just thought it would be a good idea to sort the problem at the time. so would clomid and nolvadex sort this problem out completely once pct is finished?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    you may or may not even get shrinkage. Can you not live with some smaller nuts for a few months? IMO Hcg really isnt needed in this case but thats up to you.
    i agree chuck i would leave it out and not bother just run pct as usal

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