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06-30-2009, 07:30 PM #1Junior Member
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first time cycle
stats:
22 years old
6'0 195lbs
bf% is usually 12-15%
lifting for 4 years
been following a fairy consistent diet that i found on the diet forum
looking to gain as much lean muscle as i can and then cut towards the end
my first cycle i want to do it right and simple.....
test e weeks 1-10..... or is 1-12 better any suggestion????
also i read dbol as a kickstarter but i would rather not mess with the stuff will my gains still be good even if i just run test e???
pct- nolva 40,30,30,30
also had questions about using clen to help me cut at the end.... when do i use this and for how long and how much per week?
Main questions:
use test e for 10 or 12 weeks
not interesting in dbol will i still have good gains
is my pct ok or how can it be perfect
how can i use clen at the end and when to loose left over body fat and to cut
thanks for any help like i said i feel more comfortable just using one steroid (test e) for my first cycle so any suggestions or help is appreciated
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06-30-2009, 07:32 PM #2
Clomid would be a good addition to your pct.
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06-30-2009, 07:32 PM #3
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06-30-2009, 07:35 PM #4
clen two weeks on two off
start out at 50mcg and build up every two to three days 20mcg max out at 180mcg if it is liquid you can go a little higer...IMO
agreed with the rest 12weeks best for first run......
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06-30-2009, 07:40 PM #5
Nothing wrong with the clen , I just wouldn't go too crazy with trying to cut during pct. Your going to have to work hard and eat a lot of health cals to stave off gain loss.
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No Need for D-bol! ll it really does is get your strength and weight up quickly then when the test kicks in that takes over. You will see pretty close to the same gains only difference with just test e, it is going to take anywhere from 3-6 weeks before it starts to "hit" But you will still have great progress once it does! I would also suggest 12 weeks, as I said it takes up to 6 weeks sometimes to actually start really working so the longer cycle will produce a better chance for gains
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06-30-2009, 08:05 PM #7Junior Member
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thanks for the quick replies.... so 12 weeks of test e at 500 mg.... how do i do that just one injection a week or two a week(one every 3.5 days) and how manys cc's is it per week?
i will probably wait on the clen for awhile and see how the test e goes if i need it i can always run it after pct right? or is it better to run it the last 2 weeks of the cycle? either way i have time.
PCT- I know this is the most important.... so since you guys are saying to add clomid to nolva how would you plan out my pct??? start both 2 weeks after my last injection? or how do you recommend and at what dosage per week?
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06-30-2009, 08:15 PM #8
look like this bro
weeks 1-12
250mg monday 930am
250mg thrusday 930pm
pct 14 days after last injection
100mg clomid ed two weeks 50mg clomid ed two weeks
40mg nolva ed two weeks 20mg nolva ed two weeks...
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06-30-2009, 08:18 PM #9Junior Member
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ok so my pct is clomid 100,100,50,50 and nolva 40,40,20,20
and how many cc's is 250mg?? thats what each injection will be
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06-30-2009, 08:35 PM #10
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yeh the concentration will tell you how much test there will be in each cc
it will look something like this 250mg/ml
or
testosterone enanthate 250mg/ml
most are 250 mg/ml but some do go all the way up to 400
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06-30-2009, 10:10 PM #12Junior Member
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clomid is like 4 times more expensive than nolvadex .... on my pct is just running nalvadex 40,40,20,20 safe or do i need the clomid for right pct?
i will have whatever pct i go with before i start my cycle just incase something comes up
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06-30-2009, 11:40 PM #13
Iwould use both clomid and nolva as stated above
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