Tren and sleep

[hockeyguy]

Been running Tren A and Test E, 9 weeks into cycle. Was thinking about trying some Melatonin to help with falling asleep at night as the lack of it is getting to me. Has Melatonin helped others fall asleep or is there something better?

[Azyzz]

Been running Tren A and Test E, 9 weeks into cycle. Was thinking about trying some Melatonin to help with falling asleep at night as the lack of it is getting to me. Has Melatonin helped others fall asleep or is there something better?

valium if you can get a prescription. Otherwise melantonin should work fine.

[diesel405]

I just take a benadryl, knocks me right out.....

[allnatural101]

In my case, I fall asleep without any problems, but sweating is another story.

[alpmaster]

I have always found melatonin to not do much of anything, at least for me.

Try just a generic sleep aid from a pharmacy for the rest of your cycle. I use CVS brand generic sleep aid, half a tab per night and I get to sleep in a hurry and stay asleep and don't have any problems with drowsiness the rest of the day.

[JiGGaMaN]

valium if you can get a prescription. Otherwise melantonin should work fine.

this is a really bad choice for sleep for a number of reasons. let me list a few:

(1) Benzodiazepines are generally contraindicated for use as a sleep aid, and this is of *PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE* for bodybuilders because they inhibit REM sleep, which is when growth hormone is secreted.

(2) Long acting benzodiazepines have an effect of still leaving you buzzed the next day. Diazepam (valium) has one of the longest if not the longest half lifes of all benzos, which can lead to a build up of valium in the blood system from regular use (sort of like how test e builds up).

(3) They are addictive. You likely wont sleep much without them after you start.

[JiGGaMaN]

I just take a benadryl, knocks me right out.....

sedating anti-histamines are probably a better way to go. benadryl will work, doxylamine tends to be the strongest (Nyquil) as well as promethazine if its available otc where you live.

[Dukkit]

i usually use melatonin while cycling tren . only works for a few weeks before it stops though. (in my case)

[JiGGaMaN]

i usually use melatonin while cycling tren . only works for a few weeks before it stops though. (in my case)

insert racial joke here

[Dukkit]

insert racial joke here

i cant think of one.

im white. your white. kinda nothing funny to say. lol

[JiGGaMaN]

i cant think of one.

im white. your white. kinda nothing funny to say. lol

actually good call. you are that guy who stopped working after a few weeks judging by how much you are on here during the week.

[Dukkit]

actually good call. you are that guy who stopped working after a few weeks judging by how much you are on here during the week.

haha

dork


(im only on here when im at work. lol)

[JiGGaMaN]

haha

dork


(im only on here when im at work. lol)

i know, you punch in at 9am mon-fri, never late. i was gonna message you in the postwhore thread the other day and realized it was a saturday so i didnt bother lol.

[Satva1100]

xanax or midazolam = sleep like a baby

[JiGGaMaN]

xanax or midazolam = sleep like a baby

read post #6

[ninesecz]

i remember trying that melatonin when i did tren cause I heard it can help you sleep too NOT!! You what worked for me...the night time sniffling sneezing ,coughing, aching, stuffy head fever so you can rest medicine.... thats right good ole nyquil

[firmechicano831]

In my case, I fall asleep without any problems, but sweating is another story.

Actually I;m on my last shot. Last night and almost everynight I've been sweating so much that I feel dirty once I get up in the morning. My blankets are drenched in sweat.

[Dukkit]

i know, you punch in at 9am mon-fri, never late. i was gonna message you in the postwhore thread the other day and realized it was a saturday so i didnt bother lol.

hah
correction 8am. not 9
but good shit bro

[allnatural101]

Firmechicano: did you had problems with falling asleep?

[firmechicano831]

Firmechicano: did you had problems with falling asleep?

I still do. I don't go sleep until like 12,1 or last night 2 am. 5 hrs a night of sleep if I get lucky. Normally I've been napping during the day because my body is so tired.

[Dukkit]

Actually I;m on my last shot. Last night and almost everynight I've been sweating so much that I feel dirty once I get up in the morning. My blankets are drenched in sweat.

thats how i am without even being on cycle

and on tren its even worse. lol

[Nicotine]

try rubbing one out before bed!!!!!!!!

you'll feel better, and the male body is ready for sleep once "done"

[hankdiesel]

Been running Tren A and Test E, 9 weeks into cycle. Was thinking about trying some Melatonin to help with falling asleep at night as the lack of it is getting to me. Has Melatonin helped others fall asleep or is there something better?

3mg before bed helps me to sleep

[hockeyguy]

Thanks for so much input guys.

[stpete]

Tylenol pm works for me. I like Nyquil too but not the alcohol that's in it.

[ninesecz]

Nyquil kicks ass!!

[MuscleScience]

read post #6

Xanny gives me the best sleep I have ever had. Feel like a million bucks in the morning to.

[KatsMeow]

I switch up between soma and klonopin

but that's because it's my last resort, I would say for you to try melatonin first and see if it works

[The Deuce]

this is a really bad choice for sleep for a number of reasons. let me list a few:

(1) Benzodiazepines are generally contraindicated for use as a sleep aid, and this is of *PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE* for bodybuilders because they inhibit REM sleep, which is when growth hormone is secreted.

(2) Long acting benzodiazepines have an effect of still leaving you buzzed the next day. Diazepam (valium) has one of the longest if not the longest half lifes of all benzos, which can lead to a build up of valium in the blood system from regular use (sort of like how test e builds up).

(3) They are addictive. You likely wont sleep much without them after you start.

I have to disagree... I have been on Benzodiazpines for 9 years.. everyday.. Valium and Ativan... I take Valium daily to prevent and maintain against Panic attacks and Ativan to put me to sleep... TRUST ME I HIT REM SLEEP JUST FINE.. REM is instituted as a dream state.. and BOY DO I DREAM !!! Every night...

As far as being "buzzed the next day" nope negative once valium becomes active into your bloodstream and you have been on it long enough.. properly medicated so to speak. you cant even tell its in your body...

The only thing I agree with you on is the fact that they are addictive EVIL medication.. but without it I would suffer greatly from panic attacks that land me in the ER thinking I am having a HEART ATTACK.. IE- All symptoms.. chest pain, shortness of breath, tingling numbness of the left arm and shooting pain down it.. SO yah I need the medicine to quell these attacks but a note to ANYONE who does not have a PANIC DISORDER.. do not take benzodiazipines .. like he said they are addictive and if you stop them suddenly without a proper medical taper.. IT CAN LITERALLY KILL YOU !! No joke.. DEATH. Seizures.. a whole mess of nasty problems can and will occur upon the sudden stop after a lengthy administering of this medication...

But as far as sleeping with or without my ativan.. I do not need to take it every night... i get tired and fall asleep without it on many occasions...

[hockeyguy]

Plan to try melatonin but did find a bit of nyquil lying around for tonight.

[gmmvp42]

ZMA with melatonin is supposed to have some benefits for the sleep impaired. I have had success with 1.5-3 mg melatonin, haven't tried ZMA(zinc/magnesium/?) This is assuming you aren't on the hard stuff already, then it would be worthless.