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  1. 07-08-2009, 10:39 PM #1
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    Deca front load info

    Just a little info.

    Tried a frontload on my Deca cycle for the first time this time.

    Did 1250mg first 2 weeks, then down to 500mg last week (week 3). I gained a nice 10-12lbs already.

    Also doing winny at 25mg ED, Test at 375mg wk.

    28/215/8%/6'

    Having slighty gyno puffiness though. Going to throw on EQ next week at 800mg wk.

    Looking to land at 230 ~8%.

    Have var and dbol on hand as well, and lots of EQ

    Just FYI stuff,
    later guys,
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  2. 07-08-2009, 10:44 PM #2
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    Well I wouldn't bother with the EQ... you're already running Deca .. and they kinda compete for the same receptors. I'd bump that winstrol dosage up to 50mg ED..

    But yah, once again, I wouldn't throw the EQ into the mix... I definitely would suggest backloading the cycle with Var @ 100mg... you could even stack it with the d-bol @ 30 - 40mg... I dunno, just a suggestion.

    Might wanna get some a-dex / letro going for that gyno bro!

    Have a good rest of the cycle.
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  3. 07-09-2009, 12:42 PM #3
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    thing is my gynos flaring up good on the deca thats why I was gonna switch to EQ, plus I have TONS more of it.
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    bro getting gyno from a little bit of deca is almost impossible are you certain it's gyno ? if it s switching to eq and adding some arimidex would be a smart thing to do
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  5. 07-09-2009, 01:04 PM #5
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    Been cruising on test just before, no issues with .5 EOD arimidex . I quit noval as suggested by this board on the deca and the gyno seems to be progressing. Not in size but in fluid and sensitivity. Progesterone based I assume, however I thought the winny would help that, 25mg ED maynot be enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test247 View Post
    Been cruising on test just before, no issues with .5 EOD arimidex. I quit noval as suggested by this board on the deca and the gyno seems to be progressing. Not in size but in fluid and sensitivity. Progesterone based I assume, however I thought the winny would help that, 25mg ED maynot be enough.
    winny is not really gonna help you with that bro up the ari to 1mg a day, if that doesn't help its not gyno.
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  7. 07-09-2009, 01:11 PM #7
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    Its puffy and tender however the right side is worse and has a small hard marble in it. Normally my left is more sensitive.

    I will up the adex soon as I get more in, waiting on my damn order!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test247 View Post
    Its puffy and tender however the right side is worse and has a small hard marble in it. Normally my left is more sensitive.

    I will up the adex soon as I get more in, waiting on my damn order!
    A-dex will do NOTHING to eliminate gyno once it's already presence. (well not nothing, as it does kill approx 80% of active estrogen... but not enough).

    Basically, due to the fact that you ran deca , you have to alter your protocol for gyno-reversal. 1.) I would get my hands on some letro (which kills apprx 98% of active estrogen), and run it for the next 4 - 6 weeks. You should look up letro protocol, and how to taper up / down the dosage properly.

    If the letro doesn't work for you, then you may have to utilize caber / bromo.

    Good luck bro.
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  9. 07-09-2009, 01:20 PM #9
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    Thanks man, Im picking up Letro today... my girlfriend isnt gonna be happy about it ruining my sex drive. I have some noval on the way I may try that again first. as it did seem to be working before I got off it due to suggestions from people.

    I had a-dex work before I took it off cycle and it reversed some gyno, just FYI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test247 View Post
    Thanks man, Im picking up Letro today... my girlfriend isnt gonna be happy about it ruining my sex drive. I have some noval on the way I may try that again first. as it did seem to be working before I got off it due to suggestions from people.

    I had a-dex work before I took it off cycle and it reversed some gyno, just FYI.
    haha.. I know what you mean about the sex drive bro... but trust me, going abstinent for 4 weeks is MUCH better then your alternative... (b*tch-tits) LOL.

    Honestly though, I wouldn't utilize the nolva... Basically, you can use nolva until the letro comes; however, once you're on letro, discontinue the use of nolvadex ... as nolva will only impede the effectiveness of letro.

    Oh... and P.S. (I'm glad you were about to reverse with a-dex in the past!) that's a good sign... but since you're on cycle currently & using a 19a-nor compound, simple put: A-dex will just not cut it

    haha... hope that helps bro... you can PM me if you have anymore questions eh. Good luck.
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  11. 07-09-2009, 01:25 PM #11
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    thanks brother... yeah... 19a-nor isnt Tren also? I got away with just novaldex and armidex on a tren/test/winy/eq cycle before...

    My sensitivity to gyno seems to go up each cycle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test247 View Post
    thanks brother... yeah... 19a-nor isnt Tren also? I got away with just novaldex and armidex on a tren/test/winy/eq cycle before...

    Yes, Tren is a 19-nor as well.

    My sensitivity to gyno seems to go up each cycle...

    ^^ This means you're Gyno-prone bro! Every cycle from now on you should run A-dex from the beginning, right until PCT... or if you're using a 19-nor in the cycle (deca / tren) you could run caber. (not to mention caber increases sex drive drastically)...

    But right now I'd definitely focus on the gyno-reversal. Hopefully you see some noticeable decreases in the nipple sensitivity, with the letro, within 4 weeks of use!
    Advice in bold.
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  13. 07-09-2009, 01:31 PM #13
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    Yeah I need to pick up caber its just so expensive ($200/bottle) I am short on funds right now, works slow unfortunately...

    I used caber before on a non 19nor cycle just for the sex drive and I noticed nothing from it. My sex drive is still screamin right now tho... even with puffy chick nipples, lol.

    appreciate all the time/advice bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test247 View Post
    I used caber before on a non 19nor cycle just for the sex drive and I noticed nothing from it. My sex drive is still screamin right now tho... even with puffy chick nipples, lol.

    appreciate all the time/advice bro
    I can honestly say I have never heard of caber being that much EVER.

    LOL, hopefully you live in the middle of no-where or something, because that's quite the price to be paying.

    Anyways, no problem bro! Peace.
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    p.s. you might want to edit that price out, before people get pissed lol.
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