B Vits with Tren?

**TractionIssues** · 07-09-2009, 12:17 PM

B vitamins should be taken with Tren to reduce prolactin levels, it also gives a boost to metabolism and energy. My question is, some people say B6, some say B12, some say B Complex. Imo B Complex sounds like the best, but when I looked up B Complex online, it says it's a water based solution... Would this mean that it would not be a good idea to mix it in the same syringe as Tren Ace and Test Prop seeing as they are Oil based? I have heard that many people do it and it lowers the pain, but is it possible that it causes some of the Test or Tren to crash and that is why it doesn't hurt as much?

**strength_addict14** · 07-09-2009, 12:43 PM

I dont think it would make your tren crash out of the solution. B12 is pretty common to use for this.... I know that for myself atleast b12 injections make me feel like a million dollars. Give it a shot.

**TractionIssues** · 07-09-2009, 01:00 PM

Alright. Opinions on dosage?

**strength_addict14** · 07-09-2009, 01:08 PM

250-1000 mcgs.

**Swifto** · 07-09-2009, 01:13 PM

Vit-B6 can be used to control PRL and PgR.

However, it will reduce steroid gene-transcription and can damge the CNS in large doses. Stay below 200mg/ED IMHO.

**TractionIssues** · 07-09-2009, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Vit-B6 can be used to control PRL and PgR.

However, it will reduce steroid gene-transcription and can damge the CNS in large doses. Stay below 200mg/ED IMHO.

Ahh, didn't know that... How much would that relate to in B complex doses, or should I just stick to B12?

**ninesecz** · 07-09-2009, 01:28 PM

I would use b-6 and b-12 and mix them together before stabbing- Stay away from water based cause it is going to g through you much too quick! No ester cause water is the suspension

**TractionIssues** · 07-09-2009, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by ninesecz

I would use b-6 and b-12 and mix them together before stabbing- Stay away from water based cause it is going to g through you much too quick! No ester cause water is the suspension

So they make estered B Complex?

**TractionIssues** · 07-09-2009, 02:33 PM

Okay so simply, what is the best Injectable B vit to use while on Tren and what dose should be used?

**TractionIssues** · 07-09-2009, 03:25 PM

Anyone?

***T-MOS*** · 07-09-2009, 03:35 PM

I have only seen injectable B12. I use B6 tabs when I am on tren , works fine for me, but I am not gyno prone much

**TractionIssues** · 07-09-2009, 03:41 PM

I have access to injectable B12 and B Complex. I thought tabs wern't very effective due to bioavailability. I dont think I'd be gyno prone to prolactin, but it's just to be on the safe side. So T-Mos would you just suggest I just get some B6 tabs, or B Complex, and just take that unless gyno signs appear?

***T-MOS*** · 07-09-2009, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by TractionIssues

I have access to injectable B12 and B Complex. I thought tabs wern't very effective due to bioavailability. I dont think I'd be gyno prone to prolactin, but it's just to be on the safe side. So T-Mos would you just suggest I just get some B6 tabs, or B Complex, and just take that unless gyno signs appear?

I would do like Swifto suggested above. B6 tabs @200mgs/ed from the start of the cylce.
Unless you get Caber and can run that for the prolactin buildup

**TractionIssues** · 07-09-2009, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

I would do like Swifto suggested above. B6 tabs @200mgs/ed from the start of the cylce.
Unless you get Caber and can run that for the prolactin buildup

I'd rather use something as simple as vits that are healthy and don't have side effects, before running Caber, which is also more expensive, but at first sign of prolactin sides I will use Caber, I have some on hand. Just rather use Vit B and preventive first.

***T-MOS*** · 07-09-2009, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by TractionIssues

I'd rather use something as simple as vits that are healthy and don't have side effects, before running Caber, which is also more expensive, but at first sign of prolactin sides I will use Caber, I have some on hand. Just rather use Vit B and preventive first.

I only ever used B6 and so far so good !!!

**TractionIssues** · 07-09-2009, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

I only ever used B6 and so far so good !!!

So B6 it is, thanks T.

**Swifto** · 07-09-2009, 04:37 PM

Instead of Cabergoline, go with Pramipexole. It also has the added benefit of increasing GH.

Try to get away with the lowest B6 dose. Start on 50mg/ED and see how you go. Less is better with B6.

**TractionIssues** · 07-09-2009, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Instead of Cabergoline, go with Pramipexole. It also has the added benefit of increasing GH.

Try to get away with the lowest B6 dose. Start on 50mg/ED and see how you go. Less is better with B6.

I thought I heard that with Pram some people had hallucinations and stuff? That's a side I'd want to stay away from :P As for the B6 I guess I should be getting enough from my multi at that low dose.