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    21 Year old, first time user

    Hello,

    Im reese and I am currently thinking about jumping on the juice for the first time. Ive read into the matter and waited before im 21 to start. Long awaited day! Below are my stats.

    Age: 21 years old
    Height: 5"7
    Weight: 155lb
    BF: 12-14%

    Bench - 70kg x 3 sets, 10 reps
    Pushups - 60max

    Dont do legs that much, but will start

    Now ive been doing a bit of reading on the forum and it looks like the best thing for a beginner is:

    *testosterone enanthate + dynabol.

    Now is testosterone enanthate a blanket term for a number of steroids brands which fall under this category or is it a specific steroid?

    Now im from Australia and the USA measurements are a bit different.

    For eg. 1-12 test e 500mg/week, what does that mean?

    Do i take Test E 1-12 weeks? And how much exactly is 500mg on a syringe?

    Also with the dynabol, is it better to get the 10ml yellow tablet form? Or the injectable?

    How much $ am i roughly looking at to complete a full 12 week cycle (if this is the best amount)

    Ive read through the thread "TEST BEGINNER CYCLE INFO" But was just unclear on the above. Thanks

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    Welcome to AR

    you are not gonna want to hear this, but you are NO WAY ready to use steroids !!!

    need to get your diet and training in order LONG before you ever consider using steroids or you will just be wasting them and stressing your body

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    Hi T-MOS

    Thanks for your reply, ive been training for about 12months now, and have put on 10kg naturally and increased by bench by about 30kg. I eat 6 meals a day with a combination of proteins and carbs.

    I must admit I dont have the experience in training as most of the people here, but am fit for my age naturally.

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    12 months is really not long when it comes to bodybuilding. There is so much you need to learn about your body before you start altering its chemistry

    bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint

    I would stop by our diet section and start a thread to have your diet looked at. chances are that the guru's there will be able to tweek it and help you make even more gains naturally for a while

    good luck

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    Thank you for your honest advise. I will jump over there now and have a look. Thanks again

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    too young

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    Thumbs up

    "bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint"


    Well said !

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    ^^^ agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamZ View Post
    "bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint"


    Well said !
    T-mos got that from me and"educate before you masterbate" he's always nicking my sayings noob..(JK).lol
    Last edited by sigman roid; 07-11-2009 at 12:42 AM.

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    This kid is like the Poster Boy for not using Steroids! If you can not answer certain questions like how do you measure 500mg and what is enanthate... YOU ARE NOT READY!!

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    lol i was referring to T-MOS statement not yours LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamZ View Post
    lol i was referring to T-MOS statement not yours LOL
    obviously cos i didnt make a statement..i was messing with t-mos

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    Quote Originally Posted by reesedonz View Post
    Hello,

    Im reese and I am currently thinking about jumping on the juice for the first time. Ive read into the matter and waited before im 21 to start. Long awaited day! Below are my stats.

    Age: 21 years old
    Height: 5"7
    Weight: 155lb
    BF: 12-14%

    Bench - 70kg x 3 sets, 10 reps
    Pushups - 60max

    Dont do legs that much, but will start

    Now ive been doing a bit of reading on the forum and it looks like the best thing for a beginner is:

    *testosterone enanthate + dynabol.

    Now is testosterone enanthate a blanket term for a number of steroids brands which fall under this category or is it a specific steroid?

    Now im from Australia and the USA measurements are a bit different.

    For eg. 1-12 test e 500mg/week, what does that mean?

    Do i take Test E 1-12 weeks? And how much exactly is 500mg on a syringe?

    Also with the dynabol, is it better to get the 10ml yellow tablet form? Or the injectable?

    How much $ am i roughly looking at to complete a full 12 week cycle (if this is the best amount)

    Ive read through the thread "TEST BEGINNER CYCLE INFO" But was just unclear on the above. Thanks
    I think your age is fine. It's just that your training experience is lacking. You only train half your body for crying out loud. You have so much room for improvement without steroids. Don't cycle yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigman roid View Post
    obviously cos i didnt make a statement..i was messing with t-mos
    I'm tellin my mommie

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    I would say wait at least one more year. Start a supplement stack, creatine, beta-alanine, a pre workout drink, nitrix oxide, shit like that. Take some weight gainers, eat like a mad man. You'll feel like your on steroids. You'll be thankful if you wait abit longer.

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    ok your not ready for roids.. you know all those supplyment mags you prolly got at your house?? ya that one, open it up.. ya ok now see jay cutler.. he got like that useing muscle tech!!! there ya go go get every supp jay takes and make a mean face when u lift BAM muscls pop all sorts of spots!!

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    Hi, thank you all for your honest replies relating to my decision to using steroids.

    I was at work while writing the first post so ill go more into detail about my past history.

    I have been working out for around 1 year, I've tried a variety of supplements which include protein in the morning and before bed, also include glutamine with my protein, no explode pre-workout and cellmass creatine after workout. I train 4-5 nights a week, and was being totally honest with my training my legs, I will get more serious with them and start to train them as hard as i train my upper body.

    I played rep soccer for 6 years and am very fit in regards to cardiovascular training, and the reason behind me doing weights was to build up strength and power. Since training, ive quit soccer as ive lost my speed and overall passion to the game. Bodybuilding is where its at for me at the moment.

    My question behind the measurements of injections on the syringe, is plainly because ive never administrated any injection to my body before, so instead of doing it stupidly and following friends advise, ive come here for help from the more experienced pro's.

    Whether or not im ready to use steroids, my honest answer when i take a step back and consider my current situation is maybe to hold back a bit longer. There are a lot of younger and unfit kids then me that just take dynabol oral tablets straight off the bat without any consideration to how their body work's with no results.

    Once my legs are done and worked up to catch up with the rest of my upper body I may consider rethinking my idea.

    The whole reason behind my thought of taking steroids is this: I just honestly felt I hit a glass ceiling with constant hard training sessions showing little or no gains anymore, not being able to keep going up levels of weights and staying on the same weights constantly, compared to the gains I made within my first 3 months of training. With the amount of supplements ive been taking and the money i've been needing to spend + the time consumed with training, ive got so frustrated that im not getting results anymore. I've come to understand steroids isnt the magic pill to get me there. Any thoughts?
    Last edited by reesedonz; 07-11-2009 at 12:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reesedonz View Post
    Hi, thank you all for your honest replies relating to my decision to using steroids.

    I was at work while writing the first post so ill go more into detail about my past history.

    I have been working out for around 1 year, I've tried a variety of supplements which include protein in the morning and before bed, also include glutamine with my protein, no explode pre-workout and cellmass creatine after workout. I train 4-5 nights a week, and was being totally honest with my training my legs, I will get more serious with them and start to train them as hard as i train my upper body.

    I played rep soccer for 6 years and am very fit in regards to cardiovascular training, and the reason behind me doing weights was to build up strength and power. Since training, ive quit soccer as ive lost my speed and overall passion to the game. Bodybuilding is where its at for me at the moment.

    My question behind the measurements of injections on the syringe, is plainly because ive never administrated any injection to my body before, so instead of doing it stupidly and following friends advise, ive come here for help from the more experienced pro's.

    Whether or not im ready to use steroids, my honest answer when i take a step back and consider my current situation is maybe to hold back a bit longer. There are a lot of younger and unfit kids then me that just take dynabol oral tablets straight off the bat without any consideration to how their body work's with no results.

    Once my legs are done and worked up to catch up with the rest of my upper body I may consider rethinking my idea.

    The whole reason behind my thought of taking steroids is this: I just honestly felt I hit a glass ceiling with constant hard training sessions showing little or no gains anymore, not being able to keep going up levels of weights and staying on the same weights constantly, compared to the gains I made within my first 3 months of training. With the amount of supplements ive been taking and the money i've been needing to spend + the time consumed with training, ive got so frustrated that im not getting results anymore. I've come to understand steroids isnt the magic pill to get me there. Any thoughts?
    This can be attributed to your diet. Have you checked out the diet section yet? Once you post up what your diet looks like in detail, like this....

    Meal 1
    xxxxxx (cal xxg, protein xxg, fat xxg, carbs xxg)
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    Meal 2
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    Meal 3
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    Meal 4
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    Meal 5
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    Totals: (cal xxg, protein xxg, fat xxg, carbs xxg)

    We can help you much better.

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