Need opinions on cycle and pct

[xephonics]

Ok, big asked that I post my planned cycle and pct here, and he would help me tweak it.

For my cycle:
1-10wk test e 500mg/week
1-4wk dbol 40mg/day

and for my PCT
Day 1-30- 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

and Letro if any signs of gyno.

Does this seem sufficient? ( Only plan on doing a 10 wk cycle since I dont want to buy a 3rd bottle to only use 2/5 of it, seems a waste atm)

[GetTheRage]

I would use nolva on that cycle to combat gyno letro is very nasty stuff.
Your probably gunna wanna run your PCT like this
Nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/100/50/50

[jbm]

your pct starts 14 days after last shot of test? is this your plan?

[xephonics]

yeah 14 days after last shot was my plan.

I would use nolva on that cycle to combat gyno letro is very nasty stuff.
Your probably gunna wanna run your PCT like this
Nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/100/50/50

thanks for the advice m8

[Juice Authority]

I don't see why everyone is insistent on running dbol as a 'kickstart' with long acting esters. People have no patience. If you want kickstart your blood concentration levels run a fast acting test ester like Prop for the first 4-5 weeks and then add dbol. dbol is actually much more effective to incorporate as the long acting esters are kicking in or towards the end of the cycle as you start to plateau. There is a point of diminishing returns in every cycle.

[Big]

I'd go
clomid 100/50/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20

[Necrosaro]

I believe t-bol might give you cleaner gains for the start of your jumpstart then d-bol...that is if you can find some!

[jbm]

IMO! how about drop the Dbol ...

[xephonics]

I don't see why everyone is insistent on running dbol as a 'kickstart' with long acting esters. People have no patience. If you want kickstart your blood concentration levels run a fast acting test ester like Prop for the first 4-5 weeks and then add dbol. dbol is actually much more effective to incorporate as the long acting esters are kicking in or towards the end of the cycle as you start to plateau. There is a point of diminishing returns in every cycle.

I was just going along with the sticky advice. This is my first cycle, so going by the stickies for beginner's test cycle seemed correct.


@big - are novi and clomid enough, or do I NEED l-dex/arim like was suggested in Pheedno's thread?

[ranging1]

im runing the exact same cycle
12 weeks of 500mg test ethathate
4 weeks of 40mg dbol daily
i started with 30mg dbol but found it didnt really suffice
im 2 weeks in
made great strength gain so far, great pumps, great recovery abilities
had no major side effects except water retention
the test i feel still hasnt kicked in
i was considering on doing test prop to kik start my cycle
but im abit of a wuss wen i comes to needles
2 shots of test ethante is enough for me
my PCT is nolvadex and clen , dont have clomid so uve prob got a much better PCT then myself
i think ur cycle is a good solid foundation, the gains ive made in 2 weeks so far have been unbelievble, so i think uve chose a god cycle
just get ur PCT right, the post above are really good advice
and of course diet, good luck

[Juice Authority]

I was just going along with the sticky advice. This is my first cycle, so going by the stickies for beginner's test cycle seemed correct.


@big - are novi and clomid enough, or do I NEED l-dex/arim like was suggested in Pheedno's thread?

Well, if it's your first cycle you should see how you respond to test first before adding any other compound. Test is the base for all cycles. I don't care what the sticky says. My first cycle was 500mgs of Sust 2x/wk and I wouldn't have changed a thing. dbol is a very powerful compound, probably the most powerful compound on an mg for mg basis next to maybe Tren .

[xephonics]

thanks for all the info/advice