what would you call this cycle?

[jacko2009]

this is a cycle my mate is on and thinks its a great ripping cycle. i want your opinion on what you think of this cycle. didnt really go into detail of his cycle history but he has done 4 previous cycles (this being his 5th).

dbol wk 1-5 (4tabs a day)
test E wk 1-12 (mon + thurs)
tren A wk 5-10 (EOD)
equibol wk 5-10 (tues + fri)
proviron wk 5-12 (100mg daily)

wk14 - 18 PCT

im not sure of his stats but to guess id say 22 / 10bf% / 220lbs
all comments welcome.

[Matt]

For a 22 year old i call this cycle OTT.....

[jacko2009]

i wouldnt go that far either im on my 2nd cycle at the mo. the first one i messed up and i got advice on here now im on dbol 1-4 wk and test e 1-12 week. i didnt think it was safe to mix so many. other than his age would you say its a good cycle for ripping. and for his age how would you tweak it ??

[Matt]

Is this his first cycle????

I have to go out but will continue when i get back....

[G4R]

He is only 22, and this is his 5th cycle?!

[jacko2009]

we both bin training since we were 14 but he started taking steroids at 18.

He is only 22, and this is his 5th cycle?!

[jacko2009]

no this would be his 5th

Is this his first cycle????

I have to go out but will continue when i get back....

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

what dosages is he planning on running those at? and what about PCT, what does he have planned

[jacko2009]

dbol wk 1-5 (4tabs a day) -----40mg
test E wk 1-12 (mon + thurs)---1.5ml
tren A wk 5-10 (EOD)----------1.5ml
equibol wk 5-10 (tues + fri)----1.5ml
proviron wk 5-12 (100mg daily)

pct
1 pack hcg
proviron 30 days
tamoxifen 30 days
1000mg milk thistle 30 days
(any ideas on tweaking this let me no)

its a good thing i wrote all this down !

what dosages is he planning on running those at? and what about PCT, what does he have planned

[jacko2009]

.........guys ???

T how would you tweak this cycle ? before the idiot kills himself ha

[T-MOS]

I would call it STUPIDITY !!!

and "Ripping" or bulking is More about the diet and less about what compounds you use

so it depends on what his diet looks like

How tall is your friend???

[jacko2009]

5 ft 9, he has around 300 to 350 g protein / 50 - 70g carbs and 20 -40g fat
he buys lean fresh chicken and cooks it all together and adds veg to 2 of them meals with flax seed oil, i think he has about 4 meals al together and 2 to 3 protein drinks. and yeah thats wot i said to!

I would call it STUPIDITY !!!

and "Ripping" or bulking is More about the diet and less about what compounds you use

so it depends on what his diet looks like

How tall is your friend???

[jacko2009]

iv give you all my answers. now can have yours

[G4R]

I am still having trouble getting past the fact he is only 22 and running this (or any) cycle.

How far along is he in this cycle?

[jacko2009]

theres lads round my end on steds at 14 mate its the trend here its a northern thing its stupid. im not sure i think he is on his 2nd or 3rd week so he will be on his test e and dbol ... so theres time to tweak it thats y i need answers before the noob shuts himself down

I am still having trouble getting past the fact he is only 22 and running this (or any) cycle.

How far along is he in this cycle?

[G4R]

theres lads round my end on steds at 14 mate its the trend here its a northern thing its stupid. im not sure i think he is on his 2nd or 3rd week so he will be on his test e and dbol ... so theres time to tweak it thats y i need answers before the noob shuts himself down

Tell him stop his cycle before he does some serious damage to himself (if he hasn't already).

Just because it doesn't seem like he is doing any harm to himself, doesn't mean he isn't. He needs to get his body into peak performance before he even considers doing any more AAS. And if he started at 18, I would be willing to bet he was nowhere near his full natural potential.

[jacko2009]

he isnt going to stop its either me get help off you guys to tweak it or he is going to take the lot......h e l p

Tell him stop his cycle before he does some serious damage to himself (if he hasn't already).

Just because it doesn't seem like he is doing any harm to himself, doesn't mean he isn't. He needs to get his body into peak performance before he even considers doing any more AAS. And if he started at 18, I would be willing to bet he was nowhere near his full natural potential.

[Matt]

The answer is, he shouldnt be cycling, tell him to keep away from steroids.

Hes 22 and done 5 cycles?? Man he's going to do himself some real harm....

[jacko2009]

mate theres lads down here who go on nap 50's for a year on without cuming off they dont know jak. its all about takin a few tabs and getting big they havnt read up or tried to get advice like me on here.

The answer is, he shouldnt be cycling, tell him to keep away from steroids.

Hes 22 and done 5 cycles?? Man he's going to do himself some real harm....

[jacko2009]

i asked for a tweak not for a full stop

[jacko2009]

i dont mean to sound like an ass i just need a tweak or another way to help him out. he hasnt had advice off lads like your self so he thinks he knows it all . i will show him this page when i see him and hope it changes his mind but i know matt and he will want a tweak rather than stop alltogether.

[T-MOS]

I don't even know where to begin here as this is a complete train wreck. and second hand info isn't going to do much good.

Tell your "friend" that you talked to the experts and we feel that he should get on here and talk to us about his cycle before he screws up the chemistry of his body for the rest of his life and ends up NEVER being able to have kids, or worse an erection without medical help

[jacko2009]

i will try and get him on thanks anyway

[jacko2009]

hi guys i told him to stop all together and said i spoke to the pro's but the idiot didnt listen i did how ever get him to change his cycle to this. . . .

1-4 dbol 40mg/pd
1-14 eq 500mg/w
1-14 test e 400mg/w
8-16 proviron 80mg/pd
pheedo's pct

i took the tren a out and extended the long eastered compounds i hope i did the right thing. i know he should stop all together but i tried offering a tweak thanks anyway guys.

[ninesecz]

a little better but still need to see what his diet and pct are going to be like for this experiment in libido!

[jacko2009]

a little better but still need to see what his diet and pct are going to be like for this experiment in libido!

im not sure about is diet if you have a read above theres a little bit on his diet but thats all i know. i gave him pheedo's pct ?


......could you tweak my diet if i type it in ??? like but hey ha

[alpmaster]

Oh no! A person who knows how to diet, has PCT planned out, has trained for many years, and has good stats... at 22! GASP!

[jacko2009]

Oh no! A person who knows how to diet, has PCT planned out, has trained for many years, and has good stats... at 22! GASP!

i dnt know weather that is sarcasm or a comment ?? :s

[Hockeystud911]

This thread is rediculas... just my 0.02

[jacko2009]

your spelling is ridiculous

how do you work that one out. this post has stopped my mate from making a bad decision.

''just my 0.02'' whats this suppost to mean?