First Time User, Need Some Help On a Cutting Cycle

**viking73** · 07-14-2009, 07:48 PM

ok, i've used prohormones before, but this is the first real cycle of anything more hardcore than that. The stack I'm going to get is:

Winstrol
Deca -Durabolin
Primobolan

What I want to know is if there will be any noticeable lean muscle gains with these. I know that there won't be anything close to what I'll get with a bulking stack, but i do want some muscle and strength gains. Sorry if this is a really dumb question, but like i said I've never been on anything like this before and I'd really like to know what to expect. I'm still going to do a lot more research before I take this stuff, I just wanted to get some info. Thanks in advance for any help.

**Big** · 07-14-2009, 07:49 PM

Welcome.
not a good cycle at all. a first cycle should ideally be one compound only.
age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?
planned pct?

**viking73** · 07-14-2009, 07:52 PM

Exactly why would this be a bad cycle? Just want to know what I'm getting into.

**POPS** · 07-14-2009, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by viking73

ok, i've used prohormones before, but this is the first real cycle of anything more hardcore than that. The stack I'm going to get is:

Winstrol
Deca -Durabolin
Primobolan

What I want to know is if there will be any noticeable lean muscle gains with these. I know that there won't be anything close to what I'll get with a bulking stack, but i do want some muscle and strength gains. Sorry if this is a really dumb question, but like i said I've never been on anything like this before and I'd really like to know what to expect. I'm still going to do a lot more research before I take this stuff, I just wanted to get some info. Thanks in advance for any help.

I was in the same boat as you are last year. Reading up on the information is a must. I learn new things everyday. You definately have to post your stats to get any type of feedback here. Good luck and welcome!!

**Big** · 07-14-2009, 07:53 PM

answer my questions and I'll answer yours.

**POPS** · 07-14-2009, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by viking73

Exactly why would this be a bad cycle? Just want to know what I'm getting into.

Im no expert, but I would say test e is the way to go for a first cycle; solo. The funny thing is that the guys here know that I do not pin ( lol ) but I guarantee that they would agree w/me that this would be the way togo for a newbe. But like I said, you need to post your stats before you get any real help!

**POPS** · 07-14-2009, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Big

answer my questions and I'll answer yours.

hey Big, wanna bet hes under 21?? lol

**TITANIUM** · 07-14-2009, 08:00 PM

X2 on the test E only.And BIG is on the prowl, so give him your stats.

**POPS** · 07-14-2009, 08:08 PM

whats the story here? no one wants to hear whats right for them, they just want to hear what they want to hear. I guess heres another perfect example of someone who thinks that theres a " magic pill " to success!

Anyways, Im outta here. The Cleaner is on, lol................

**viking73** · 07-14-2009, 08:34 PM

age: 22 (no I'm not under 21)
height: 5'9"
weight:187
body fat%: somewhere round 9-10%
years training: 7
planned pct: Nolvadex /Clomid

**viking73** · 07-14-2009, 08:36 PM

Thanks, I'll look into test e, but kinda muscle gains should I expect from this? and how bad are the sides?

**Big** · 07-14-2009, 08:37 PM

gains vary, genetics, diet, training, etc make a huge difference.
the sides are easily controllable.

**viking73** · 07-14-2009, 08:49 PM

but again, why was the first one so bad?

**Big** · 07-14-2009, 08:52 PM

because a first cycle should be one compound only, if you run all 3 and have an adverse reaction, how would you know what compound to leave out of the next cycle?
additionally, men just aren't men without testosterone , you would completely shut down your natural test production, but not supplement by adding test. there are many other reasons, but I'm trying to help several people at once, so I'll let someone else take over here.