My Testosterone Enanthate Cycle

**CJAKT** · 07-15-2009, 10:24 AM

Age: 27
Weight: 210lbs
Height: 5'9"

Week (1 - 10) - 500mg Testosterone Enanthate
25mg E.D. Clomid (Clomiphine Citrate) -to stop testi's from shutdown
1mg E.D. Fincar (Finasteride) - to stop enlargement of prostate
1/4 tablet E.D. Anastrozole (Arimidex ) - to prevent gyno
Acne Prevention - 2 showers a day, tanning twice a week

Week (11) - 300mg Testosterone Enanthate
25mg E.D. Clomid (Clomiphine Citrate)
1mg E.D. Fincar (Finasteride)
1/4 tablet E.D. Anastrozole (Arimidex)
Acne Prevention - 2 showers a day, tanning twice a week

Week (12) - 200mg Testosterone Enanthate
25mg E.D. Clomid (Clomiphine Citrate)
1mg E.D. Fincar (Finasteride)
1/4 tablet E.D. Anastrozole (Arimidex)
Acne Prevention - 2 showers a day, tanning twice a week

Week (13)
100mg E.D. Clomid (Clomiphine Citrate)
1mg E.D. Fincar (Finasteride)
1/4 tablet E.D. Anastrozole (Arimidex) - size of tablets 1mg total size

Week (14)
1/4 tablet Every 3rd day Anastrozole (Arimidex) - size of tablets 1mg total size
50mg E.D. Clomid (Clomiphine Citrate)

NOTE: This is what I have come up with after research and good advice from TMOS and ninesecz. Please critique, all advice is appreciated. I want to make sure my Anastrozole is enough throughout the cycle to not have any issues with Gyno happening. Also should I have Novaldex on hand if Anastrozole lets gyno start? Thank you Everyone

**inky-e** · 07-15-2009, 10:29 AM

I wouldn't run clomid throughout that cycle...If anything maybe nolvadex eod....I'd wait to see if any signs of gyno occur....then I would just use adex.

**CJAKT** · 07-15-2009, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by inky-e

I wouldn't run clomid throughout that cycle...If anything maybe nolvadex eod....I'd wait to see if any signs of gyno occur....then I would just use adex.

Clomid is not for Gyno but to stop testicles from shutting down and not producing testosterone . This was suggested so that gains are kept after stopping the steroid and not lost dramatically.

**inky-e** · 07-15-2009, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by CJAKT

Clomid is not for Gyno but to stop testicles from shutting down and not producing testosterone. This was suggested so that gains are kept after stopping the steroid and not lost dramatically.

Bro when you're juicing you are shut down...

**Jfew44** · 07-15-2009, 10:38 AM

^^ x2. Also, don't taper your test. Run the same dosage throughout.

**Jfew44** · 07-15-2009, 10:38 AM

Also, I don't like your pct. I would run it at least 4 weeks, and throw nolva in there as well as the clomid.

**redz** · 07-15-2009, 11:14 AM

As stated above, run a consistant dose,forget tappering, improve pct and don`t run the clomid through the cycle.

**Mooseman33** · 07-15-2009, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by CJAKT

Clomid is not for Gyno but to stop testicles from shutting down and not producing testosterone. This was suggested so that gains are kept after stopping the steroid and not lost dramatically.

clomid is for PCT bro, i would never run it the duration of the cycle...
it would be a crying mess for me...

**ninesecz** · 07-15-2009, 11:32 AM

that seems a little wacky if you ask me! No need to taper the test! by not tapering you get a better finish from the higher dose. Unless you are gyno prone etc. why run any clomid or Nolva during cycle and stunt your gains if not needed. Have it on hand but unless it is needed dont bother

**CJAKT** · 07-15-2009, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by ninesecz

that seems a little wacky if you ask me! No need to taper the test! by not tapering you get a better finish from the higher dose. Unless you are gyno prone etc. why run any clomid or Nolva during cycle and stunt your gains if not needed. Have it on hand but unless it is needed dont bother

Ok so I won't tapper the test but keep it consistent at 500mg throughout the 12 weeks. Run Fincar throughout? (this helps to reduce risk of enlarged prostate) I won't run any clomid or anastrozole throughout but rather start it at the end of my cycle.

My dilemma is I see so many different ways to come off Test En. that I can't choose a system. Some say start Novaldex solo 14 days after your last injection. Others say run novaldex throughout cycle mixing with test en. during injections. Last I read a guy who claimed running Anastrozole throughout along with clomid to keep yuor testosterone producing. If someone could help me firm up my pct that would be great.

**CJAKT** · 07-15-2009, 01:05 PM

No one? I really want a safe pct program and I can't decide on which PCT program to pick.

**Big GB4** · 07-15-2009, 01:25 PM

I recently ran the same cycle, minus the fin. I dosed Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. This PCT was run 14 days after my last injection. I had Adex on hand incase I developed gyno. I had no signs of gyno so I didnt use it. I only lost 4 pounds of the 26 that I gained.

Just remember to keep a good diet throughout the cycle AND during PCT. Hell, keep dieting the right way as long as you train.

**CJAKT** · 07-15-2009, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Big GB4

I recently ran the same cycle, minus the fin. I dosed Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. This PCT was run 14 days after my last injection. I had Adex on hand incase I developed gyno. I had no signs of gyno so I didnt use it. I only lost 4 pounds of the 26 that I gained.

Just remember to keep a good diet throughout the cycle AND during PCT. Hell, keep dieting the right way as long as you train.

So you ran clomid and Nolva throughout your entire cycle and just continued them after stopping the injections as your PCT correct?

**Mooseman33** · 07-15-2009, 01:36 PM

do not run clomid during ur cycle, only use for PCT.....

**CJAKT** · 07-15-2009, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by mooseman33

do not run clomid during ur cycle, only use for PCT.....

Ok got it, not for during. Now down to choosing my PCT, I have heard perks and negatives about all of these but my selection is Novaldex, Arimidex or Letrozole . Should I use 1 of these after stopping my injects (14 days out) or a stack of these? Again everything I read says both ways

**alpmaster** · 07-15-2009, 01:42 PM

Here you go:

Cycle:

Week 1-12 Test E @ 500mg (inject monday and thursday)
Week 1-14 Adex .25mg ED

PCT (start 14 days after last injection):

Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Ok, next question.

**CJAKT** · 07-15-2009, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by alpmaster

Here you go:

Cycle:

Week 1-12 Test E @ 500mg (inject monday and thursday)
Week 1-14 Adex .25mg ED

PCT (start 14 days after last injection):

Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Ok, next question.

Should Clomid and Nolva be stacked or Nolva be done alone since it is more powerful than clomid? (also 40/40/20/20 is mg's?)

Main worry right now is stopping Gyno, my god does gyno scare the s**t out of me. I have been reading for the past 7 days about both pct and gyno to not have any problems.

**Big GB4** · 07-15-2009, 02:22 PM

Yes 40/40/20/20 means 40 mg per day for weeks 1 and 2 of PCT. Likewise, 20 mg per day for weeks 3 and 4 of PCT.

**CJAKT** · 07-15-2009, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Big GB4

I recently ran the same cycle, minus the fin. I dosed Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. This PCT was run 14 days after my last injection. I had Adex on hand incase I developed gyno. I had no signs of gyno so I didnt use it. I only lost 4 pounds of the 26 that I gained.

Just remember to keep a good diet throughout the cycle AND during PCT. Hell, keep dieting the right way as long as you train.

I thought Adex and Novaldex are the same thing just abbreviated. I am going to take clomid and novaldex for PCT. But I want something on hand to stop gyno incase it arrises and I thought Novaldex was that.

**ZoneBlitz** · 07-15-2009, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by CJAKT

I thought Adex and Novaldex are the same thing just abbreviated. I am going to take clomid and novaldex for PCT. But I want something on hand to stop gyno incase it arrises and I thought Novaldex was that.

Adex is short for Arimidex , an AI.

**CJAKT** · 07-15-2009, 03:14 PM

Common statements tell me that Nolvadex is the best at treating Gyno if it happens and also for PCT. Is adex better at gyno than nolvadex? My PCT Im gonna run is Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/50/50/50. (mind you first time cycle)

**inky-e** · 07-15-2009, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by CJAKT

I thought Adex and Novaldex are the same thing just abbreviated. I am going to take clomid and novaldex for PCT. But I want something on hand to stop gyno incase it arrises and I thought Novaldex was that.

Ok here we go again...you can take nolvadex 20 mg's eod during cycle if you want....it will help prevent gyno.....if you choose not to go that route then use arimidex as needed at signs of gyno...usually it takes 2-3 days of .25 to make those symptoms go away ( FOR ME)....I have never liked clomid ( I have my reasons)...my pct's are adex and nolva...with hcg ...and clenbuteral as well...thats what has worked for me.....Not everyone will agree with this...but in this game its down to trial and error to find what works for you.

**CJAKT** · 07-15-2009, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by inky-e

Ok here we go again...you can take nolvadex 20 mg's eod during cycle if you want....it will help prevent gyno.....if you choose not to go that route then use arimidex as needed at signs of gyno...usually it takes 2-3 days of .25 to make those symptoms go away ( FOR ME)....I have never liked clomid ( I have my reasons)...my pct's are adex and nolva...with hcg...and clenbuteral as well...thats what has worked for me.....Not everyone will agree with this...but in this game its down to trial and error to find what works for you.

Yeah it definitely boils down to trial by person. Ah little scary to the new user. So after PCT how do you know that everything is ok with you? Meaning all your levels are back to normal and your good to continue with daily none supplemented life.

**inky-e** · 07-15-2009, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by CJAKT

Yeah it definitely boils down to trial by person. Ah little scary to the new user. So after PCT how do you know that everything is ok with you? Meaning all your levels are back to normal and your good to continue with daily none supplemented life.

That would be bloodwork my friend.....another way to "know" you're ok is if you transition from cycle to pct then after pct your sex drive is as it was pre juice...to me that tells me my levels are in the acceptable range....but theres no substitute for proper bloodwork.

**CJAKT** · 07-15-2009, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by inky-e

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That would be bloodwork my friend.....another way to "know" you're ok is if you transition from cycle to pct then after pct your sex drive is as it was pre juice...to me that tells me my levels are in the acceptable range....but theres no substitute for proper bloodwork.

Thank you def gonna hit bloodwork, is that something a doctor must request. OR something I can request at a medical testing facility?