Cycle guidance...

[organized_konfusion]

Hello.... I am
24 yrs old
195lbs
9% BF
will be on a 3-4,000 calorie diet
Have been training on/off for about 7 years

Here is what I am planning on cycling the 2nd time round'

D-bol 30mg ED 1-4 wks
Sustanon 500mg EW 1-10 wks
Nolva PCT

Any advice would help a lot......thanks guys..

[G4R]

Welcome

How tall are you?
What are your goals?

[TractionIssues]

You cannot just say you will be on a 3000-4000 random calorie diet, you should really hit the diet section and have a structured diet in check first. IMO this should be done long before you start a cycle so that you can modify it to fit your body etc...

[Juice Authority]

I would run the dbol in the middle or towards the end as the Sust esters are clearing (this takes up to a month). Sust has 2 fast acting compounds/short esters, 1 slower releasing/medium ester and 1 slow releasing/longer acting ester. I don't see a need to kickstart on dbol with Sust.

[organized_konfusion]

I am 5'9'' and I want to be about 210 lbs..... but hoping I don't get extreme water retention from d-bol

[organized_konfusion]

thanks for the advice Juice Authority, I'll keep that in mind.

[G4R]

And what does your diet look like in detail? Post it up like this.....

Meal 1
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Meal 2
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Meal 3
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Meal 4
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Meal 5
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Meal 6
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Totals: Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg

[organized_konfusion]

meal 1:
1 cup egg whites (Cal:122, Fat:0, Protein:25.5, Carb:1.8)
1 cup oatmeal (Cal:234, Fat:2, Protein:5.5, Carb:27.31)

meal 2:
Protein Shake: (Cal:220, Fat:3.5, Protein:52, Carb:7)
2 cans of tuna: (Cal:440, Fat:10.2, Protein:81.2, Carb:0

meal 3:
Chicken Breast: (Cal:250, Fat:13, Protein:30, Carb:0)
Avacado: (Cal:384.1, Fat:35, Protein:4.5, Carb:19.9)
Almonds: (Cal:824, Fat:72, Protein 30, Carb: 26)

meal 4:
Sweet Potato: (Cal 105, Fat:1, Protein:1.7,Carb: 41)
Protein Shake: (Cal:220, Fat: 3.5, Protein: 52, Carb: 7)

meal 5:
Chicken Breast: (Cal: 240, Fat: 1.5, Protein:52, Carb: 0)
Salad: (Cal:30, Fat:1.5, Protein: 2, Carb: 0)

meal 6:
Protein Shake: (Cal: 220, Fat:3.5, Protein:52, Carb:7)
2 Bannanas: (Cal: 304, Fat 2, Protein: 3.3, Carb: 69)

Total: Cal: 3,593, Fat: 148, Protein: 391, Carb: 206

[G4R]

meal 1:
1 cup egg whites (Cal:122, Fat:0, Protein:25.5, Carb:1.8)
So thats 4 egg whites
1 cup oatmeal (Cal:234, Fat:2, Protein:5.5, Carb:27.31)
I assume this is plain oatmeal?

meal 2:
Protein Shake: (Cal:220, Fat:3.5, Protein:52, Carb:7)
2 cans of tuna: (Cal:440, Fat:10.2, Protein:81.2, Carb:0

meal 3:
Chicken Breast: (Cal:250, Fat:13, Protein:30, Carb:0)
Avacado: (Cal:384.1, Fat:35, Protein:4.5, Carb:19.9)
Almonds: (Cal:824, Fat:72, Protein 30, Carb: 26)
How many Almonds?

meal 4:
Sweet Potato: (Cal 105, Fat:1, Protein:1.7,Carb: 41)
Protein Shake: (Cal:220, Fat: 3.5, Protein: 52, Carb: 7)

meal 5:
Chicken Breast: (Cal: 240, Fat: 1.5, Protein:52, Carb: 0)
Around 8oz?
Salad: (Cal:30, Fat:1.5, Protein: 2, Carb: 0)
What are you putting on the salad?

meal 6:
Protein Shake: (Cal: 220, Fat:3.5, Protein:52, Carb:7)
2 Bannanas: (Cal: 304, Fat 2, Protein: 3.3, Carb: 69)

Total: Cal: 3,593, Fat: 148, Protein: 391, Carb: 206

You don't need that many Protein shakes either.

[organized_konfusion]

Well I work in a hospital 60 hrs a week doing 5 (12hr shifts) so It's hard to be eating like a mad man the whole time I'm there.....

[organized_konfusion]

yes- plain oatmeal, 1 cup roasted almonds(no salt), chicken around 8-10oz, and salad usually 1 tbl spoon of ranch

[G4R]

Well I work in a hospital 60 hrs a week doing 5 (12hr shifts) so It's hard to be eating like a mad man the whole time I'm there.....

Well, you don't have to eat like a mad man. Let me throw up a diet I ran for a while with good results, and tell me if you might be able to do it (food wise, not dedication).....

Meal 1
5 egg whites cal 85 / fat 0.5 / carbs 1 / protein 18
1/2 cup plain oatmeal (cooked) cal 75 / fat 1.5 / carbs 13.5 / protein 2.5
1 slice wheat bread cal 60 / fat 1 / carbs 12 / protein 2.5

Meal 2
1 can of tuna cal 121 / fat 1.2 / carbs 0 / protein 27.5

Meal 3
5 egg whites cal 85 / fat 0.5 / carbs 1 / protein 18
8oz lean cut steak cal 130 / fat 4 / carbs 0 / protein 24
1 can of tuna cal 121 / fat 1.2 / carbs 0 / protein 27.5
2 slices wheat bread cal 120 / fat 2 / carbs 24 / protein 5

Meal 4
1 can of tuna cal 121 / fat 1.2 / carbs 0 / protein 27.5


Workout
protein shake

Meal 5
8oz lean cut steak cal 130 / fat 4 / carbs 0 / protein 24
2 cups plain uncooked broccoli cal 62 / fat 0.6 / carbs 4 / protein 5.2
3 egg whites cal 51 / fat 0.3 / carbs 0.6 / protein 10.8
1 plain baked potato cal 145 / fat 1 / carbs 34 / protein 5

Meal 6
1 can of tuna cal 121 / fat 1.2 / carbs 0 / protein 27.5

Meal 7 / Bedtime
1/2 cup cottage cheese cal 90 / fat 2.5 / carbs 3 / protein 16

Totals

Cal - 1807
Fat - 23.7
Carb - 100.1
Protein - 301

[organized_konfusion]

that looks pretty nice, don't think I could do that many eggs but it's worth a shot, and I can't do cottage cheese, but I could subsitute something ... So what do you think of the cycle, would you start the d-bol @ the beginning or middle?

[organized_konfusion]

Thanks for your help bro

[G4R]

that looks pretty nice, don't think I could do that many eggs but it's worth a shot, and I can't do cottage cheese, but I could subsitute something ... So what do you think of the cycle, would you start the d-bol @ the beginning or middle?

You can substitue some of the eggs with 8oz of chicken if you want.

And the cottage cheese can be substituted with some nuts (just not too many).

As far as the cycle goes, I have only used Dbol as a kickstart, so that is the only experience I have with it. Never used mid cycle before.

[organized_konfusion]

Right on, With d-bol should labs be checked monthly or bi-weekly, since it can be liver toxic?

[TractionIssues]

Right on, With d-bol should labs be checked monthly or bi-weekly, since it can be liver toxic?

Make sure you start taking liver support a month before your D-bol and during the course of it, and you will be fine. What does your training routine look like?

[organized_konfusion]

Mon: 20 min jump rope
Bi's/Tri's/Shoulders

Tues: Legs/ Abs

Wed: bike ride (1.5 approx.)
Chest/Abs

Thurs. Off

Friday: jump rope 20min
Back, Tri's, abs

sat/sun OFF