Running 2 Nor19's

[Fantomg]

***I already have this posted in the "injury" section as well. But there's content that I feel qualifies my post to run here too***

Pulled my bicep tendon at the insertion point in the shoulder….again… running one of my favorites' - “Test C” and “Tren Ace”. – 400mg/week and 75mg EOD.

Same injury that likes try to ruin my lifts once every couple years or so. I’m 3 weeks into Test C and Tren A. Historically I’ve always been able to train through this injury via substitution (angles and more d-bell work) coupled with some nsaids, ultrasound treatments, biofreeze, stretching, etc.
However – my little miracle hormone for this has always been Decca. 2-300mgs/week. And each time, 3 weeks in - I’m pain free and really close to full range of motion again. Still – I won’t hit it quite as heavy (lbs), as I believe that Decca, (while some say it heals) masks a certain percentage of pain as well, thus giving a false sense of well-being.

There is a question here: I have not run 2 nor19’s together in the past. Considering my injury, my ability to train through it via the aforementioned, would anyone lend opinion to running: 2-300mgs Decca/Wk in addition to my 400mgs TestC/week and 75mgs TrenA EOD. I am stubborn about pulling the plug on one of my favorite stacks (I won’t).
I might add that I live in the land of plenty, meaning, if it’s named, I can probably get my hands on it.

PS: In the Injury Section -
I've already been suggested to "spot" inj GH to the affected area. I'm assuming I'd want to do that IM rather than SubQ. I couldn't see it working specifically on that area if I SubQ'd it.

Signed,
"All Dressed Up and No Where to Go"

[Dukkit]

there is no reason not to run them both

especially with your deca at a low dose such as your planning

ive ran both and i know ppl whove ran both

no more problems occured then runnin tren alone

[Fantomg]

Thank you. Would appreciate your opinion on GH spot inj's to hasten the healing process.

[Dukkit]

hmm. im not too well versed in GH. id wait till later on today when other vets and members sign on

sorry bro. i only give advice on what i know. lol

[Fantomg]

sorry bro. i only give advice on what i know. lol[/QUOTE]

What a Virtue - Thanks again

[TractionIssues]

Do you know if your prone to progestin related sides?

[T-MOS]

I have run both together with no problems also. just make sure you are taking things to counter the progesterone

Not sure about spot injection of the HGH either ..... couldn't hurt, but not sure it would really help heal

[The Deuce]

I have never done it personally .. and honestly never will.. would never wanna let the progesterone to get out of control... NASTY SIDES.. Leaking nips.. UHH NO THANK YOU !!!

[Dukkit]

I have never done it personally .. and honestly never will.. would never wanna let the progesterone to get out of control... NASTY SIDES.. Leaking nips.. UHH NO THANK YOU !!!

its been shown that running 2 19-nors at the same time would not double up the sides or risk of sides

lets say tren has a "side factor of 70"
and deca has a "side factor of 20"

if you ran them together the "side factor WOULDNT be 90"
it would still only be about 70

lol. wierd way to put it but i havent popped my caffeine pills yet.

and you say leaky nips is a side.. well i had leaky nips on 600 mg of tren. without deca. so you dont need them both to cause that problem

[inky-e]

My experience with 2 nor 19's has been a bad case of acne...I have recently had rotator surgery (Full tendon tear) and I was also considering the GH factor in my recovery.......I have had mixed info on this...for a full year I shot deca then cortisone...etc anything to allow me to continue to train and the result was that the tendon finally gave out...if I would have listened to the docs I would have had the repair done sooner than later ...and the recovery wouldn't be as long....to wrap it up...2 19's..for me NO!....but thats just my take.

[Fantomg]

Not much time to type here. THANK YOU for the advice and opinions. "inky-e", you've made me realize that if I can dump money on gear, I can spend some on a good doc this week to assess the extent of my injury before I possibly mask it with nandrolone and end up handing my wallet and a payment plan over to the same doc. Sorry that happened to you. Hope you've made a full recovery. It's such a bitter pill to just have gear kick in and strain a tendon or lig. "T-MOS" - As far as GH for site inj's to heal- I'm still scouring for the answer. Never thought about GH in that capacity before. Will be at a major NPC show next week and ask a few I know there. If I find some substantiated info, I'll start a thread about it afterwords.