Your Thoughts Please!!

[newbie8582]

My first Cycle was a Deca Test cycle which i had great gains but a few complications... My feet and ankles swelled like ****.... i know deca is known for its water retention so what i am wondering is if on my next cycle i switched to a long esterted tren ie tren enanthate would i expect this to solve the problem...

i have since done a test only cycle (to see if it was the deca causing the swelling) with good gains but im planning my 3rd...

What are your thoughts please??

[Juice Authority]

If you've never taken Tren then I would start with Tren A and see how you respond. If the sides are unmanageable you can drop it quickly and the sides will go away within a few days to a week. With Tren E the sides last much longer after cessation.

[newbie8582]

If you've never taken Tren then I would start with Tren A and see how you respond. If the sides are unmanageable you can drop it quickly and the sides will go away within a few days to a week. With Tren E the sides last much longer after cessation.

Fair point..

That would mean eod shots though right??

[Juice Authority]

Fair point..

That would mean eod shots though right??

ed would be optimal. I know, it's a pain in the ass, literally, but if you react to Tren like I do then you'll be glad you didn't run Tren E.

[newbie8582]

ed would be optimal. I know, it's a pain in the ass, literally, but if you react to Tren like I do then you'll be glad you didn't run Tren E.

What are your sides??

[Juice Authority]

What are your sides??

Where do I start? How about sexual dysfunction, night sweats, severe insomnia, cramping, and short windedness.

[Juice Authority]

I forgot to add anxiety that needed to be medicated.

[Twist]

yea me too
tren a for sure
I would even say start at a low dose also.

[ninesecz]

Where do I start? How about sexual dysfunction, night sweats, severe insomnia, cramping, and short windedness.

Dont forget Nightmares, Headaches, Shin Splints, and there are a bunch more too! Tren can really screw you up if you do not watch it

[newbie8582]

What would be a good alternative to the deca then??

[T-MOS]

I would not suggest tren for a THIRD cycle....Tren is really NOT for the novice steroid user

what are your stats and cycle results?

did you use an AI during your cycles?
what were your PCT

[newbie8582]

I would not suggest tren for a THIRD cycle....Tren is really NOT for the novice steroid user

what are your stats and cycle results?

did you use an AI during your cycles?
what were your PCT

Age 27
6"2
210lbs

Good results on test and deca cycle apart from sides. good results on test only cycle but not as good as with the anabolic.

Had nolva on hand but never used it

PCT was Clomid 100/50/50/50 nolva 20/20/20/20

also have HGC but never used it

[hankdiesel]

What about run the test/deca again but control the water retention with an ai.

[newbie8582]

I would not suggest tren for a THIRD cycle....Tren is really NOT for the novice steroid user

what are your stats and cycle results?

did you use an AI during your cycles?
what were your PCT

What about run the test/deca again but control the water retention with an ai.

Because i think it was more than just water retention, more like a allergic reaction...

I go pitting edema in my feet and ankles to a crazy degree, ended up ankles were 3x the normal size and couldn't wear any shoes...

[Juice Authority]

Because i think it was more than just water retention, more like a allergic reaction...

I go pitting edema in my feet and ankles to a crazy degree, ended up ankles were 3x the normal size and couldn't wear any shoes...

If it was made in EO versus grapeseed oil that could be the culprit. It's become popular for a lot of UGs to use EO and many people have an allergic reaction to that.

[c-Z]

Another one... Glad to see it takes ten posts to get some stats.... How do people sleep at night? offering advice not knowing what your working with.....

[lovbyts]

Because i think it was more than just water retention, more like a allergic reaction...

I go pitting edema in my feet and ankles to a crazy degree, ended up ankles were 3x the normal size and couldn't wear any shoes...

How much water where you drinking? Remember the more water you drink the less water retention. The less water you drink the more water your body will retain.

Good call on the grape seed oil, I had never heard that before. Good to know.

[newbie8582]

If it was made in EO versus grapeseed oil that could be the culprit. It's become popular for a lot of UGs to use EO and many people have an allergic reaction to that.

That would make sense as i used deca for 10 weeks with no problem and problems only started when i changed brands..

How can i tell what its made in?? Can i say the one i reacted to was NL brand??