Tren = "BG THIEF"???

[Fantomg]

Ok – I’ve been using the “search” function and keywords “Tren” and “Blood Sugar” + variations on that theme.
There are lots that post they’ve experienced hell-like hypoglycemic symptoms from Tren, but I've yet to find any conclusive answers as to the cause etc. - Sorry, that's my due diligence for today's search efforts. Here's the situation:

Me: meals each 2hours +. I can go into more detail if requested. Simple 400mg’s Test C/Wk – 75mg’s TrenA EOD. No slin, no GH etc.

I have literally been fine one moment, then almost dropped to my knees soaked with sweat, shaking, clambering for the fridges’ bottom shelf, lip draggin on the tile goin head first to eat anything that will save me and halt what I perceive as a serious state of hypoglycemia. After chewing a hole in the side of the OJ carton, eating wrappers and the food inside them and stopping short of the arm and hammer, I’m on my back, for the next 30 minutes until finally, I recover and realize I’ve got to "toss these clothes" and take another shower.

Happens randomly. No 2 instances under the same circumstances except that it’s usually prior to my next meal at hour 2ish. Do I need to puree’ my food and get a slow drip goin’ though an IV bag?!
Historically, I’ve not had a problem with BG. No Diabetics in the fam. Other gear hasn’t done this. Gotta be the Tren. It has been suggested that the nutrient partitioning properties of Tren may cause glycogen retention and lower BG levels. My searches thus far have not uncovered any other explanations, just similar experiences.

My apologies if the answer for this one’s easy to find for some of ya. I’m a much better “reader” than “searcher” on this site to date. But this thread might be a good one if it attracts some qualified “answerer’s” - because again, my searches reveal that I’m definitely not the only one.

[romo6]

NO you are not the only one!It happens to me also,not real bad tho.Tren can cause this.The scary thing for me is i can be steadily eating all day and it still happens.

[dece870717]

I also have experienced it, was never too much of a problem for me though. Man with all the stuff that tren does I really wish their were some medical journals on this stuff with humans so we could know all these things, like the exact cause of most of the effects of tren.

[Fantomg]

Parabolan (trenbolone) was manufactured for humans by a French company back in the day (my day) called, jeeese, my alzheimers,,, Negma ???
I'm not paying to have the trial studies interpreted. It would never work with those online programs.

I'm looking for MORE than "anecdotal" evidence that Tren slams your BG. And I know someone here's got a "HOW" or "WHY" answer.

[romo6]

Well i have done a little research and what you said in your first post about nutrient partioning properties and glycogen retention pretty much sums it up.I do not believe a doctor could give you info on this.

[Fantomg]

Thank you romo6
I'm starting to wonder if it affects the breakdown of glycogen....
Glycogen is cleaved from the nonreducing ends of the chain by the enzyme glycogen phosphorylase to produce monomers of glucose-1-phosphate that is then converted to glucose 6-phosphate. A special debranching enzyme is needed to remove the alpha(1-6) branches in branched glycogen and reshape the chain into linear polymer. The G6P monomers produced have three possible fates:

* G6P can continue on the glycolysis pathway and be used as fuel.
* G6P can enter the pentose phosphate pathway via the enzyme Glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase to produce NADPH and 5-carbon sugars.
* In the liver and kidney, G6P can be dephosphorylated back to Glucose by the enzyme Glucose 6-phosphatase. This is the final step in the gluconeogenesis pathway.

Would it be that not only the liver glycogen levels get spiked from Tren but it also raises insulin and prevents glycogenolysis. Is it causing any deficiencies of enzymes necessary for either synthesis or breakdown? My body is constantly digesting food and I've got plenty of continuous starchy and fibrous carbs in me at all times to lay blame on my diet.

I'm on the verge of my comprehensive limitations. Someone enlighten me and straighten out my mumbo whilst I hit the fridge again before I do the anaphylactic moon walk. lol

[romo6]

Very interesting and very complicated.I have noticed that lowering my dosage to 75mg from 100 mg everyday has slightly helped.Take care.

[Fantomg]

I'm going to read more on the pancreas, adrenal glands, glycogen to glucose conversion, and dig to find more on the nutrient partitioning properties of Tren A... and see if I can connect the dots...... the fuzzy dots all in front of my eyes after my sugar dies again. - - People, someone enlighten me. Don't let me read all that. I have a Paypal account. Do I need to resort to offering a cash prize for the most comprehensive answer?

[romo6]

I know it totally sucks,when it hits i feel like im a full blown diabetic,this ONLY happens when im on tren.

[Fantomg]

I think I'll seek a kit to measure my sugar this week. This is from only 75mg EOD. I am eating appx 1lb chicken breasts, 1lb talapia, 1lb lean red meat/day for protein, plus syntha 6 blend of protein - rice, broccoli, yams, greens for carbs, macadamia nut oil, 1.5 gallons water, nuts.... every 2 hours. I carry tupperware'd meals around driving for work. I can't see how this is happening. I'm interested to find out when I have these moments, if my sugar is below 80.

[RANA]

I think I'll seek a kit to measure my sugar this week. This is from only 75mg EOD. I am eating appx 1lb chicken breasts, 1lb talapia, 1lb lean red meat/day for protein, plus syntha 6 blend of protein - rice, broccoli, yams, greens for carbs, macadamia nut oil, 1.5 gallons water, nuts.... every 2 hours. I carry tupperware'd meals around driving for work. I can't see how this is happening. I'm interested to find out when I have these moments, if my sugar is below 80.

This is only my suggestion if you going to measure your sugar one week on EOD injections, I would adjust my injections to ED the following week. After talking to many vets/mods that have used Tren most have done ED injections. This is something you could test out to see if it will make a difference.

[romo6]

This is only my suggestion if you going to measure your sugar one week on EOD injections, I would adjust my injections to ED the following week. After talking to many vets/mods that have used Tren most have done ED injections. This is something you could test out to see if it will make a difference.

Yes absolutely,everyday is better.

[Ashop]

Ok – I’ve been using the “search” function and keywords “Tren” and “Blood Sugar” + variations on that theme.
There are lots that post they’ve experienced hell-like hypoglycemic symptoms from Tren, but I've yet to find any conclusive answers as to the cause etc. - Sorry, that's my due diligence for today's search efforts. Here's the situation:

Me: meals each 2hours +. I can go into more detail if requested. Simple 400mg’s Test C/Wk – 75mg’s TrenA EOD. No slin, no GH etc.

I have literally been fine one moment, then almost dropped to my knees soaked with sweat, shaking, clambering for the fridges’ bottom shelf, lip draggin on the tile goin head first to eat anything that will save me and halt what I perceive as a serious state of hypoglycemia. After chewing a hole in the side of the OJ carton, eating wrappers and the food inside them and stopping short of the arm and hammer, I’m on my back, for the next 30 minutes until finally, I recover and realize I’ve got to "toss these clothes" and take another shower.

Happens randomly. No 2 instances under the same circumstances except that it’s usually prior to my next meal at hour 2ish. Do I need to puree’ my food and get a slow drip goin’ though an IV bag?!
Historically, I’ve not had a problem with BG. No Diabetics in the fam. Other gear hasn’t done this. Gotta be the Tren. It has been suggested that the nutrient partitioning properties of Tren may cause glycogen retention and lower BG levels. My searches thus far have not uncovered any other explanations, just similar experiences.

My apologies if the answer for this one’s easy to find for some of ya. I’m a much better “reader” than “searcher” on this site to date. But this thread might be a good one if it attracts some qualified “answerer’s” - because again, my searches reveal that I’m definitely not the only one.

Have you used a glucose meter to see how low your dropping. This may be an underlying problem.

[Fantomg]

Hadn't taken a look at the latest responses till just now. ED inj's with Tren makes sense to me. Thank you for the suggestion. I know the longer you wait between doses on such a short ester, the more sides you're apt to get. Still, I think I'll stay at the same total weekly dosage so I'll cut it in half and inj ED.

[RANA]

Hadn't taken a look at the latest responses till just now. ED inj's with Tren makes sense to me. Thank you for the suggestion. I know the longer you wait between doses on such a short ester, the more sides you're apt to get. Still, I think I'll stay at the same total weekly dosage so I'll cut it in half and inj ED.

Sounds great, see how you feel weeks 4-5, if you have very little sides and ok gains you might want to bump it up. I think you enjoy tren

[Schmidty]

i get it on and off tren a lot but it gets bad when im on tren. i had my bg get to 31 a few months back n i had eatn about to and a half hrs before hand.