VAR only cycle questions

[johndoe2u]

thinking of running a cycle of var in a few months.

stats:
6'
220lbs
15.8bf%
lifting for 18 years (except when injured)
train hard 4 days a week
36 years old
never ran aas before
eat very well with about 200grams of protein a day spaced out over 6 meals and a total of 2500-3000 cals a day total. well balanced diet.


my question is do i need to ramp up and down with var? if so this is what im thinking.

week1 30mged
week2 40mged
week3 50mged
week4 50mged
week5 50mged
week6 40mged
week7 30mged

if not im thinking of running 40mg ed for 7 weeks

or, would it be better to run 40mg for week1 and then 50mg ed for the next 5 weeks?


200 @ 10mg ea. is what im getting.

[glover]

No ramping up and down needed. We used to taper down back in the day. But that has been decided to be unnecessary.

I would go with 40mg for 7 weeks.

However I never run Var by itself I always use prop or npp or both with it!!!

[johndoe2u]

i appreciate the info.. not looking for tremendous gains, or looking to push. being my first time i want to take it easy.. plus im 36 and want to keep my body in check. looking to have the var help me get back down to under 12%bf and just tighten up a little. i spent most of my life until i was 30yrs old anywhere from 7-11%bf on average. last few years ive spent a little more time on the injured list due to shoulder problems. need surgery for bone spurs on my rotator cuffs, just holding off until i cant any longer.

[sigman roid]

Yeah i agree with glover 7-8 weeks at 40 mg a day should be good

[Juice Authority]

Var is more suppressive the HPTA than any other 17aa. Running Var without test will significantly suppress your natty test.

Here's what Var did to natty test levels after just 5 days at 15mgs/ed. dbol by comparison creates an initial spike in natty test levels and I have the bloodwork to prove it.






http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/con...adbaeac590bbaf

For example, total serum OX, as measured in the morning 10 h after oral ingestion, was consistent on days 3 and 5, whereas total serum and free T concentrations declined significantly from days 0 and 3 to day 5. Viewed in combination, total serum androgen levels with OX treatment were far below those obtained with TE. Although the total androgen exposure to the skeletal muscle with OX may have been considerably less than that we found previously with TE, an increase in protein synthesis was nonetheless observed. This suggests that OX may exert a greater anabolic influence on skeletal muscle than TE, thereby overcoming the decrease in the T concentration.

[johndoe2u]

well, i wont be running any test with it so what would be another suggestion. and what would be the best pct for it?

[sigman roid]

I would still run nolva and clomid for pct

[johndoe2u]

nolva at 40/40/20/20 and clomid for what 150/150/100/100? is running both really neccessary? in reading the following website it seems as though pct isnt really neccessary with this compound.

[sigman roid]

I'd delete that link if i was you,Imo pct still has to be done although not that heavy i would go with
nolva 20/20/20/20
clomid 50/50.50.50

Jmo

[johndoe2u]

got it, thanks..

[ninesecz]

Yeh my brother is running 50mg a day for 8 weeks and I am having him run Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 when he is through

[johndoe2u]

ninesecz, what was your bro's starting stats, how far into the cycle is he, what is his diet and training like? i think i remember reading another thread that he is a triathlete?

[POPS]

Yeh my brother is running 50mg a day for 8 weeks and I am having him run Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 when he is through

will he run nolva solo or with clomid? curious on his stats as well.