Back to thinking about Anavar for first cycle

[PistolPete33]

I've been on here for a short while and doing a ton of research thanks to all the knowledgable people on here. I was first thinking of taking Anavar and then thought that the cost vs. results might not be worth it so I was thinking of Test E for my first cycle. However, I've had issues with acne years ago and took Acutane to clear it and haven't had any since taking it which was about 12 years ago.

Plus, from what I've found it seems that you keep most to all of your gains of Anavar post cycle.

What are your thoughts? I won't start my cycle till after August so I'm doing as much research as possible.

Thanks,
Pete

[JinNtonic]

I was also very interested in an Anavar only first cycle. But the more I read and listened to the VETS on here, I realized you can fix your diet for the fat loss & Test will put on more muscle for less money. Thats the way I am going.

[PistolPete33]

I'm currently at a pretty low body fat which I'm happy about but def. need to add some size. However, taking Test will cause me to break out again and I'm not sure I want to go thru that again.

[hankdiesel]

Take frequent showers and possibly some acne meds. It will be worth it. Test is cheaper and far superior for adding size.

[WARMachine]

If its been 12 years since your acne problems i wouldnt worry too much about it. Im sure youre 25 years + in age at this point.

I would run a Test cycle personally. Nothing like it! And ive done a few Var only cycles. Test wins $ for $, and pound for pound.

That is, if your goal is to put on mass.

[PistolPete33]

I'm 33 years old and am really focused on my bodybuilding at this time. I currently weight 180lbs. and would love to get to 200. I'm on a cutting phase right now to get rid of any excess fat and after this phase I want to bulk up. Would love to be close to 200 by next spring.

Pete

[WARMachine]

age 33
height
weight 180
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)


Give me the rest of these...

[PistolPete33]

age 33
height 5'8"
weight 180
bf% 8-9%
diet summary/# meals per day (Currently cutting phase 1.5 grams protein/day 1 gram carbs around 2500 calories currently typically 3000+- cut 500 a day.
years lifting / workout split Currently training for 6 months. Previously 2 years lifting- 12 years martial arts and MMA
cycle experience NONE
pct/estrogen control knowledge Learning more about this everyday. Depends on what I use for a cycle
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...) Looking at building more size. I'm happy with my cut as of right now and where I am but want to add more size to my frame.

[KatsMeow]

age 33
height 5'8"
weight 180
bf% 8-9%
diet summary/# meals per day (Currently cutting phase 1.5 grams protein/day 1 gram carbs around 2500 calories currently typically 3000+- cut 500 a day.
years lifting / workout split Currently training for 6 months. Previously 2 years lifting- 12 years martial arts and MMA
cycle experience NONE
pct/estrogen control knowledge Learning more about this everyday. Depends on what I use for a cycle
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...) Looking at building more size. I'm happy with my cut as of right now and where I am but want to add more size to my frame.

what?

[Lean1038]

Var is extremely mild/weak and overpriced for it's results. I'm running 100mg for 60 days and it's nice, but not worth anywhere NEAR the money IME.

[WARMachine]

age 33
height 5'8"
weight 180
bf% 8-9%
diet summary/# meals per day (Currently cutting phase 1.5 grams protein/day 1 gram carbs around 2500 calories currently typically 3000+- cut 500 a day. Can you show me the diet currently? And what it will be when you bulk for the cycle? Include macros and the weight of the food. PLEASE go into detail.
years lifting / $workout split Currently training for 6 months. Previously 2 years lifting- 12 years martial arts and MMA Yeah training eats up a lot of cals. Should add another 1000cals a day when youre bulking depending on how many days a week you roll.
cycle experience NONE
pct/estrogen control knowledge Learning more about this everyday. Depends on what I use for a cycle
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...) Looking at building more size. I'm happy with my cut as of right now and where I am but want to add more size to my frame.

Bolds

[WARMachine]

what?

I think he ment per lb of bodyweight... At least, i hope so...

[Lean1038]

If you're looking for size... Var does not fit the bill.

[PistolPete33]

I think he ment per lb of bodyweight... At least, i hope so...

CORRECT....

Also, I'm not currently training in Martial Arts right now only lifting and for cardio I'll do some kickboxing on the heavy bags or run on the treadmill etc.

Typical diet:

Meal 1: 6:15 5 eggs (3 whites- 2 whole eggs) 1 slice of whole grain toast no butter

Meal 2: 7:45: 2 scoops of Protein shake (42 grams protein) mixed with water

Meal 3: 9:00-9:30: 2 cheese sticks or graham crackers

Meal 4: Lunch 11:30: Turkey sandwich with whole grain bread, some greens

Meal 5: Preworkout 2:15: Peanut butter sandwich w/whole weat bread, banana 1 scoop protein shake with water

Meal 6: Postworkout: 4:15: Protein shake with 2 scoops and milk

Meal 6 1/2: 4:30-4:45: Chicken breast, veggies (broccoli etc) brown rice

Meal 7: 7:00: Snack: graham crackers or something light

Meal 8: 9:45: Casein Shake with water or cottage cheese

Also, I drink at least a gallon of water a day throught the day.

Supplements I'm taking are:

Lipo 6 Black (Been on just over a week- (3) at 5:45 AM and (3) around 1pm
Whey Protein- see above Casein Protein- See above
BCAA's- with preworkout meal
and Multi-vitimans with breakfast and lunch

That's pretty much an average day for me give or take. My workout split is:

Day 1: Chest/Shoulders (20 mins cardio at end of workout)
Day 2: Bis/Tris (20 mins cardio at end of workout)
Day 3: Rest Day
Day 4: Legs (20 mins of cardio at end of workout)
Day 5: Cardio day 1 hour
Day 6: Back (20 mins of cardio at end of workout)

The cardio is up right now because I'm on a cutting phase but that will be tapered off when on a bulking phase. Some days I will do a bit longer with cardio.

I will be taking the Lipo 6 Black for 6 weeks total. I typically take creatine but I came off it for the cutting phase. I will prob. take 4 weeks off and then go back after this.

What other info do you need?

Thanks,
Pete

[WARMachine]

CORRECT....

Also, I'm not currently training in Martial Arts right now only lifting and for cardio I'll do some kickboxing on the heavy bags or run on the treadmill etc.

Typical diet:

Meal 1: 6:15 5 eggs (3 whites- 2 whole eggs) 1 slice of whole grain toast no butter 8-10 egg whites. 80Gs of Oats. Mixed fruit.

Meal 2: 7:45: 2 scoops of Protein shake (42 grams protein) mixed with water PWO is fine. But minimize the shake intake.

Meal 3: 9:00-9:30: 2 cheese sticks or graham crackers Crap. 6oz of lean chicken. 4oz of brwn rice

Meal 4: Lunch 11:30: Turkey sandwich with whole grain bread, some greens

Again, 6oz. turkey/beef/fish/chicken. 4-5oz of sweet potatoes

Meal 5: Preworkout 2:15: Peanut butter sandwich w/whole weat bread, banana 1 scoop protein shake with water Crap. Repeat above, could add some Lentils or other mixed veggies

Meal 6: Postworkout: 4:15: Protein shake with 2 scoops and milk Too many shakes.

Meal 6 1/2: 4:30-4:45: Chicken breast, veggies (broccoli etc) brown rice

Meal 7: 7:00: Snack: graham crackers or something light Dinner time around 6:30ish. 6z of lean meats. 4oz of brn rice/sweet potatoes/yams. 4oz of mixed veggies. dinner salad. 1tbl spoon olive oil. 300Gs of mixed berries/fruit.


Meal 8: 9:45: Casein Shake with water or cottage cheese FINALLY! Good here.

Also, I drink at least a gallon of water a day throught the day.

Supplements I'm taking are:

Lipo 6 Black (Been on just over a week- (3) at 5:45 AM and (3) around 1pm
Whey Protein- see above Casein Protein- See above
BCAA's- with preworkout meal
and Multi-vitimans with breakfast and lunch

That's pretty much an average day for me give or take. My workout split is:

Day 1: Chest/Shoulders (20 mins cardio at end of workout)
Day 2: Bis/Tris (20 mins cardio at end of workout)
Day 3: Rest Day
Day 4: Legs (20 mins of cardio at end of workout)
Day 5: Cardio day 1 hour
Day 6: Back (20 mins of cardio at end of workout)

The cardio is up right now because I'm on a cutting phase but that will be tapered off when on a bulking phase. Some days I will do a bit longer with cardio.

I will be taking the Lipo 6 Black for 6 weeks total. I typically take creatine but I came off it for the cutting phase. I will prob. take 4 weeks off and then go back after this.

What other info do you need?

Thanks,
Pete

What i posted will get you started, but go to the diet section and ask for some help there. Phate, JammyJam, or someone will help you from there.

[PistolPete33]

Thanks for the diet help I truly appreciate it. I'm going to post this in the diet section as well. Now, I work on the road so I don't have access to a microwave or anything during the day so I have to eat my food out of a cooler. How do you recommend eating so much chicken throughout the day? Should I just grill it up on Sunday for a few days and cut it up to eat? I have a major drawback as I'm limited to what I can enjoy for food on the road. Do you recommend taking the protein shake out after my workout? Isn't that the most important one?

Thanks again,
Pete