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    1st post... let the thrashing begin

    Whats up guys, I wanted to start by saying this is by far the best web site I have found for info and knowledge from the pros. So thank you for any knowledge i get here. OK here we go...Im still a newbie bc my knowledge is knowhere it should be so be as blunt as needed. I have a couple questions for the experts. Ive done 3 cycles in the past 3 years that have consisted of only test for the first and second cycle, sus and deca for the third. Im currently on...
    500mg sus per wk,
    200mg primo per wk,
    200mg deca per wk,
    50mg of dbol every day,
    and i also have some nolva.
    First i would like for you guys to tell me what you think of my current cycle. I need to know where i messed up at so it wont happen again.
    After i take about 3 months off Im tryin to plan another cycle and would like some advise on. I have no idea what the dosage should be so help here would be great also. Cretique where needed please.
    Tren
    Cyp.
    T3
    Winny
    I know I dont have to ask for you guys to be honest on how you feel so let the thrashing begin...
    Stats
    age. 22
    height. 6-2
    weight. 212
    BF% I honestly have no idea... maybe 15-20%
    Im also doing 30 min of cardio on mon, wed, and fri.
    Im trying to get a pic up so you can see what horriable genetics i have to start with...
    if you guys need any more info im sure you wont hesitate.. thanks for all the help guys

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    Where do we begin...

    OK you will hear this many times. You are to young but since you have already done a couple it's to late and it's best to start the damage control so bear with us.

    Your body fast is to high to do a good cycle if it's over 15% and terrible if it's near 20% You are MUCH more prone to having side effects like Gyno in the future.

    You honestly just like all the other newbies need to forget about the pins for a while and read the diet section where you can learn a LOT

    Go to the diet section and read all the stickies at the top. Watch the videos. There is so much good information. Learn how to eat properly. Honestly if your body fat is near 15% or more you are most likely to put on a lot of water weight and have sides. You will get a LOT more bang for the buck if you are already in good shape and have low body fat before you cycle.

    Next go read the PCT thread. Actually go read that now (sticky at the top) because you need to figure out what you need for a good PCT. What did you use before?
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    ^^^ YEP

    Too young

    on your third cycle and still way UNDER your natural potential weight which at 6'2 you should be able to get to and maintain a healthy 230 easy SO that tells us there is something wrong with DIET, or training, but most likely DIET

    high bodyfat puts you at HIGH risk for bad health sides like gyno, heart problems, ect...

    the cycle itself isn't terrible, but you didn't tell us how long you are running each compound and the most important part

    what is your PCT ???

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    Hey guys thanks for the quick reply,
    As far as pct goes, i thought the nolva and maybe some clomid would work but Im extremley open for suggestions... Im still researching which would benefit me the most and Im also looking for a diet that best suits my goals. Which i forgot to mention is to put on a nice amount of muscle mass but still lose excess body fat. Basically the the best of both worlds. I know my diet is my weak pt. and that it is the most important one. Im currently serving here in iraq and the work schedual we are on is terriable. Granted i still get 3 meals a day but its the other meals in between that im missing and i know thats whats killing me. I just got some whey protein sent to me this past week and im going to see if maybe that will benefit me between my meals.

    Im running
    deca wks 1-10
    sus wks 1-10
    dbol wks 2-8 ( to kinda give deca a head start)
    primo wks 1-10

    Dont know if it will help at all but today was the start of my 4th week on the cycle. Im now starting to notice some slight size gains.

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    You need to run sus or whatever Test 2 weeks longer than the deca. I think if it's sust you may need to go even longer since it's a short ester. Are you doing the sust eod or ed?

    Yes you need to get some more meals in there, dont rely on protein shakes for more than one meal a day and get the BF down ASAP.

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    Im doing the sus every 3 days.

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    how much cardio would you advise? i have read that you can do too much

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdogchoppers View Post
    Im doing the sus every 3 days.
    Test E and Test C should be done every 3 1/2 days. Sus should be done ED or EOD at the least.

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    Dude i cant believe you have run 3 cycles already at your age and still in this shape,

    you need to stop using AAS and learn how to diet properly. Your in Iraq and you cant eat regularly so this is enough reason to stop along with your age.

    I have been Iraq a few times and seen so many contractors using gear who have ZERO clue about the steriods or how to eat properly.

    Good luck with your decision and stay safe.

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    3 cycles, Are you not eating good? That much steroid use it would seem you would have to be on a decent diet! 15-20%BF after 3 cycles seems as though something is going wrong!

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    Everything has already been said you are to young to have done all those cycles but its done now so flaming is not gonna help,you need to run the sus 2 weeks longer than the deca and as said sus needs to be shot ed or eod to make the most of the prop in it,your pct would start 18-21 days after your last shot of sus

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    Since Ive started, the first 2 weeks i droped about 4 lbs Im guessing from the cardio. The past week and a half ive put back on about 3 and a half of it. Im hopeing thats the gear kicking in. My diet knowledge isnt up to par and I honestly cant break down what neutrients are in my meals but i will tell you exactly what Im eating if it will help you lead me in the rite direction.

    5:30
    4 egg whites, bowl of plain oat meal, some cold fruit

    11:30
    2 chicken breast, a scoop of tuna, mixed nuts, some cold fruit

    6:00
    work out

    8:00
    chicken or steak, green beans, potatoes, cooked carrots
    2 scoops of whey protein

    10:00
    mixed nuts, cold cut sandwhich meat no bread

    I debated on putting this up here bc it shows my EXTENSIVE knowledge on dieting. But Im really deticated to getting where I want to be. Tell me what to eat and when to eat it and I will keep chicken and rice in my pockets all day if thats what Im gonna have to do to accomplish my goals. Ok fellas let me have it...

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    I would go and put you diet up in the diet section and let "phate or jamy" help you sort it out they are the ones when it comes to sorting your diet and they will definately help you

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