Should I run DECA this winter or not?

**Polska** · 07-22-2009, 12:58 PM

I haven't used Deca in years. My first run with it was a failure; I didn't know anything about cycling and neither did the guy who sold it to me. He told me to run it for 5 weeks with no test. So needless to say I've never given it a proper run. How effective is it when stacked with test and at what dosages? I am not a fan of 19-nors due to the sides but am willing to try it for my winter bulker. Was originally just going to run test alone but am considering adding deca now. Is it worth it?

**Immortal Soldier** · 07-22-2009, 01:03 PM

I am running Deca /Test/oral tren for my Augest cycle

I am giving Deca try because I was disappointed by Tren (was underdosed) and I dont feel like dropping fat cash on Tren again and get strength gains, I want MASS.

***T-MOS*** · 07-22-2009, 01:05 PM

you can try NPP maybe for less bloating sides

but its hard to think cause I can't get past looking at your DAMNNNNN AVATAR !!!!!!!!!!!

**hankdiesel** · 07-22-2009, 01:06 PM

I only ran deca once and the strength gains were right up there with the best of them. 600mg

**Polska** · 07-22-2009, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

you can try NPP maybe for less bloating sides

but its hard to think cause I can't get past looking at your DAMNNNNN AVATAR !!!!!!!!!!!

I would avoid NPP because I want to keep my injections down to twice a week if possible. I've been pinning ED and EOD this summer and feel like a pin cushion.

Re the avatar... I haven't gotten tired of looking at her ass either !

**Polska** · 07-22-2009, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by hankdiesel

I only ran deca once and the strength gains were right up there with the best of them. 600mg

How were your sides? acne/bloating/deca dick?

**marcus300** · 07-22-2009, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

you can try NPP maybe for less bloating sides

but its hard to think cause I can't get past looking at your DAMNNNNN AVATAR !!!!!!!!!!!

hahaha

**Immortal Soldier** · 07-22-2009, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by hankdiesel

I only ran deca once and the strength gains were right up there with the best of them. 600mg

I was thinking 500mg for 12 weeks, how long did you run it for?

**Papa Smurf** · 07-22-2009, 02:53 PM

Just got off the deca part of my current cycle. Ran it for 10 weeks at 300mg ew.

My advice, 400 to 600 mg ew and at least 12 ta 14 weeks. Run your test that your gonna stack with it (of course) two weeks longer.
Around week 6 (if you do get it at all) you will get deca dick. Avoid this by running caber or bromo with cycle or at the very least have some on hand.

**c-Z** · 07-22-2009, 03:15 PM

Run the deca

**M302_Imola** · 07-23-2009, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

I am running Deca /Test/oral tren for my Augest cycle

I am giving Deca try because I was disappointed by Tren (was underdosed) and I dont feel like dropping fat cash on Tren again and get strength gains, I want MASS.

very interesting, I was considering the same cycle for my winter bulker but with oral tren being new I am a little scared. Isn't oral tren still considered a 19-nor...if so, this would mean you will be running two 19-nors w/ this cycle. I thought that was a no-no? Anyhow, I will be really curious as to what you results from this cycle are...looks promising!

**Dukkit** · 07-23-2009, 10:28 AM

ive ran deca a few times

i like it alot. right behind tren its what i would run most often

id say 400mg a week of deca

have some caber on hand

i had deca dick with first deca cycle but since i run caber and never any problems

**Dukkit** · 07-23-2009, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

very interesting, I was considering the same cycle for my winter bulker but with oral tren being new I am a little scared. Isn't oral tren still considered a 19-nor...if so, this would mean you will be running two 19-nors w/ this cycle. I thought that was a no-no? Anyhow, I will be really curious as to what you results from this cycle are...looks promising!

running 2 19-nors isnt a no no
they actually act synergetically together and can give some great gains

but id be hesitant to run the oral tren with another 19-nor

that is still too new to be sure of

**DEE151** · 07-23-2009, 11:15 AM

run the deca . i am going to run a deca cycle this winter to

**John88Test** · 07-23-2009, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Papa Smurf

Just got off the deca part of my current cycle. Ran it for 10 weeks at 300mg ew.

My advice, 400 to 600 mg ew and at least 12 ta 14 weeks. Run your test that your gonna stack with it (of course) two weeks longer.
Around week 6 (if you do get it at all) you will get deca dick. Avoid this by running caber or bromo with cycle or at the very least have some on hand.

If I were to do the same can I use pramipexole instead of the caber or bromo?

**illwillogical** · 07-23-2009, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Papa Smurf

Just got off the deca part of my current cycle. Ran it for 10 weeks at 300mg ew.

My advice, 400 to 600 mg ew and at least 12 ta 14 weeks. Run your test that your gonna stack with it (of course) two weeks longer.
Around week 6 (if you do get it at all) you will get deca dick. Avoid this by running caber or bromo with cycle or at the very least have some on hand.

Not to steal the limelight but I think my question is helpful to the OP. Isn't pharm grade Caber and Bromo a little hard to come by? I want to start a Deca cycle, but I want to have Caber, which I can only get from research chem companies, I have heard that Caber don't have a long shelf life at all as a liquid.

**TITANIUM** · 07-23-2009, 12:17 PM

I had great results with deca .Putting my next cycle together now.Test E 500 mgs wk for 12 weeks.Deca 400 mgs wk for ll weeks.D-bol for the jump start.Only sides were acne.Going to run acutane next cycle.

**M302_Imola** · 07-24-2009, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

running 2 19-nors isnt a no no
they actually act synergetically together and can give some great gains

but id be hesitant to run the oral tren with another 19-nor

that is still too new to be sure of

For some reason I had it in my head that running two 19-nors at the same time was frowned upon...oops!

**Dukkit** · 07-24-2009, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by illwillogical

Not to steal the limelight but I think my question is helpful to the OP. Isn't pharm grade Caber and Bromo a little hard to come by? I want to start a Deca cycle, but I want to have Caber, which I can only get from research chem companies, I have heard that Caber don't have a long shelf life at all as a liquid.

the amount of time youll have the caber isnt enough of a time frame for it to lose its potetency.

i always use liquid caber and i love it. it works great. ive used it on 8 week cycles and 14 weeks cycles. it works all through.

so buckle down and get some. then get on the cycle!!!

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

For some reason I had it in my head that running two 19-nors at the same time was frowned upon...oops!

its all good. seems like common sense that it wouldnt be a good idea

but from personal experience and from buds who have ran them both. they work well with no increase in sides from normal tren sides

**M302_Imola** · 07-24-2009, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

its all good. seems like common sense that it wouldnt be a good idea

but from personal experience and from buds who have ran them both. they work well with no increase in sides from normal tren sides

good to know...now I'm off to eat some waffles! j/k

**gymnerd** · 07-24-2009, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by John88Test

If I were to do the same can I use pramipexole instead of the caber or bromo?

Alot of people swear by prami thats what I am going to get.

**Immortal Soldier** · 07-24-2009, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

very interesting, I was considering the same cycle for my winter bulker but with oral tren being new I am a little scared. Isn't oral tren still considered a 19-nor...if so, this would mean you will be running two 19-nors w/ this cycle. I thought that was a no-no? Anyhow, I will be really curious as to what you results from this cycle are...looks promising!

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

running 2 19-nors isnt a no no
they actually act synergetically together and can give some great gains

but id be hesitant to run the oral tren with another 19-nor

that is still too new to be sure of

Oral tren is not "new", it's been around since the 1960-70's.

There isn't much information on it cycling wise because people say its too harsh and hepatoxic to use.

**M302_Imola** · 07-25-2009, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Oral tren is not "new", it's been around since the 1960-70's.

There isn't much information on it cycling wise because people say its too harsh and hepatoxic to use.

Yeah, I have read a few threads on it that you have commented in. I'm not going to lie the rep oral tren has gotten, as far as sides, does have me scared to use it. Although, it could be one of those things that people blow out of proportion...you will have to let us know how it treats you. Good luck bro!

**gymnerd** · 07-25-2009, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

Yeah, I have read a few threads on it that you have commented in. I'm not going to lie the rep oral tren has gotten, as far as sides, does have me scared to use it. Although, it could be one of those things that people blow out of proportion...you will have to let us know how it treats you. Good luck bro!

Thats how I look at it so many good oral aas out there no need to mess around with something that toxic just asking for problems IMO