Time to come off Sustanon? 10 weeks? 12 weeks? More. . . ?

**KimboHalfSlice** · 07-23-2009, 07:29 AM

I'm 22 years old
5'3" (160 cm)
60 kg (133 lb)
Started bodybuilding 10 months ago, currently in the 8th week of my first cycle

I bought 20 ampules of Sustanon for my cycle (each ampule is 1cc containing 250 mg).

Today I will be taking my 16th shot, so I've only got 4 more after this.

At the moment I'm taking one shot every 3 days. I'm due to take my last shot in 12 days time on August 4th.

In total, from the day I took my first shot until the day I take my last shot will be 67 days, which is 9.57 weeks. (This does not include the 3 weeks after my last shot when my testosterone is still high).

So I'd like to ask, when I take my 20th shot, is it time to come off? Or can I stay on for a little while longer? My local pharmacy is literally 5 minutes away on a motorbike so getting more ampules is not a problem.

I've been keeping a diary of my progress on this cycle. This is my first ever steroid cycle, and I'm taking Sustanon alone. Here's how my cycle looks so far:

Code:

2009-05-29 1st shot Sustanon 250 about 4pm right glute

(On the left is the date, on the right is my mass in kiloes early morning)
(The blanks are the days I was either too busy or too lazy to weigh myself)

2009-05-30  54.3
2009-05-31  55.3
2009-06-01  55.9
2009-06-02  56.15
2009-06-03  55.9
2009-06-04  56.3

2009-06-04 2nd shot of Sustanon 250 about 9pm left glute

2009-06-05  56.9
2009-06-06  56.7
2009-06-07  56.3
2009-06-08  57.2

2009-06-08  3rd shot of Sustanon 250 about 10:30 pm right glute

2009-06-09  56.5
2009-06-10  -
2009-06-11  -
2009-06-12  57.7

2009-06-12  4th shot of Sustanon 250 about 9pm left glute

2009-06-13  57.4
2009-06-14  58.0
2009-06-15  58.0
2009-06-16  58.0

2009-06-16  5th shot of Sustanon 250 about 9pm left glute (not a mistake)

2009-06-17  58.0
2009-06-18  58.1
2009-06-19  58.5
2009-06-20  58.1

2009-06-20  6th shot of Sustanon 250 about 9pm right glute

2009-06-21  -
2009-06-22  -
2009-06-23  58.1
2009-06-24  58.8

2009-06-24  7th shot of Sustanon 250 about 9pm left glute

2009-06-25  58.6
2009-06-26  59.4
2009-06-27  58.45
2009-06-28  -

2009-06-28  8th shot of Sustanon 250 in the right glute

2009-06-29  59.25
2009-06-30  58.4
2009-07-01  58.8
2009-07-02  -
2009-07-03  58.9

2009-07-03  9th and 10th left glute (500mg altogether)

2009-07-04  58.4
2009-07-05  58.4
2009-07-06  59.5
2009-07-07  59.4
2009-07-08  59.4
2009-07-09  59.5

2009-07-09  11th and 12th right glute (500 mg)

2009-07-10  60.0
2009-07-11 -
2009-07-12 -
2009-07-13 -
2009-07-14 59.2

2009-07-14  13th shot left glute (250 mg)

2009-07-15 60.0
2009-07-16 60.3
2009-07-17 61.4

2009-07-17 14th shot right glute (250 mg)

2009-07-18 59.9
2009-07-19 60.2
2009-07-20 61.8

2009-07-20 15th shot left glute (250 mg)

2009-07-21 60.7
2009-07-22 60.5
2009-07-23 60.9

2009-07-23 16th shot right glute (250 mg)

How long should I stay on Sustanon for? I'm talking about the time spent from first injection until last injection, not including the time after the last injection when testosterone is still high.

Which one of these factors is more important in deciding when to come off Sustanon?
a) The amount of days you stay on it
b) The amount of ampules you inject during your cycle

The reason I ask is, you could do an 8-week cycle but inject yourself with a gram per week! Which one is more detrimental, high doses or long cycles?

I've heard people talking about running Sustanon for 10 to 12 weeks, but I don't know if that means from first injection until last injection. Could someone please advise me on what would be a good length of time? Each extra ampule I buy keeps me on for 3 more days.

**Ernst** · 07-23-2009, 08:13 AM

Do you have a pct lined up? If so when will you begin? Can we see it?

Cycle length vs. dosage.... too much of either isn't a good thing. When to come off of sust would be more determined by length of cycle. When you hear people discussing those cycle lengths it is from first to last injection. 10-12 weeks is pretty standard.

Questions like these combined with some of your info make me think you have no business cycling. Sorry, just had to throw that in.

**Big GB4** · 07-23-2009, 08:21 AM

Agree with Ernst on the last comment

**Dukkit** · 07-23-2009, 08:26 AM

if you only gained that lil bit of weight in 9 weeks

i think your diet needs looked at.

**sigman roid** · 07-23-2009, 08:43 AM

10-12 Weeks is the norm,As dukkit said you may need to check your diet.

**Mooseman33** · 07-23-2009, 10:13 AM

my math may be off but i have the guy at 7 weeks.around 50 days...and he has 12 days left which totals 60 days give or take...
he is right at the growing stage i would think, between now and the next 4 weeks is when u can really grow...

of course, pending on diet....

**KimboHalfSlice** · 07-23-2009, 10:15 AM

About two weeks ago I reached the heaviest I've been during this cycle, I was 63.4 kiloes.

I knew that diet is a big thing, so I made it a point to eat more and more.

On the day I ate most, I ate:

Code:

Two fried eggs, two slices of toast, two slices of bacon
Three large pieces of breaded chicken breast (each piece about the size of your hand)
Natural yoghurt 300 ml
2 litres of full-fat cow's milk
Steak and french fries at a restaurant
Three chicken's eggs mixed in with pancake (and I ate two of these so that makes 6 eggs)
A club sandwhich containing 1 fried egg, a piece of chicken breast, slices of bacon

I was really force-feeding as much as I could into myself that day. At the end of the day I felt nauseous, and it took my stomach 2 days to recover (my esophagus too). For the next two days I could eat very little.

Now I don't eat as much because I know it will f*** up my stomach for a day or two. Here's a typical day now:

Code:

Two fried eggs, two slices of toast, two slices of bacon
 Three large pieces of breaded chicken breast (each piece about the size of your hand)
 Steak and french fries at a restaurant
 Three chicken's eggs mixed in with pancake (two of these so that's 6 eggs)

By the way, when considering how much mass I've put on, you should really take into account how tall I am and what weight I started out at. Going from 50 kg to 60 kg was a massive increase of 20% for me. I look way different, everybody I meet who hasn't seen me in about a month or two is saying I'm bigger, and my swimming endurance has gone down coz I'm dragging extra weight.

**KimboHalfSlice** · 07-23-2009, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by mooseman33

my math may be off but i have the guy at 7 weeks.around 50 days...and he has 12 days left which totals 60 days give or take...

Right now I'm on Day 56 (that's 7.86 weeks).

My 20th shot will be on Day 68 (that's 9.57 weeks).

I know these figures are exact because I used a spreadsheet to calculate them. (You enter a date in one cell, enter another date in another cell, then in another cell you subtract the two dates and it gives you the amount of days).

he is right at the growing stage i would think, between now and the next 4 weeks is when u can really grow...

If I buy another 6 ampules, that will take my total cycle length to 85 days, which is 12.14 weeks.

What do you think? Six more ampules?

I've decided I'm gonna try eat a ridiculous amount of food again. I'm currently eating a pancake which contains 3 eggs. When I finish this, I've got another pancake sitting right beside me. Then a protein shake. Then sleep for 8 hours.

**Mooseman33** · 07-23-2009, 10:34 AM

what is your PCT?

and please go to the diet forum, finish ur cycle off with a good diet bro...its not about eating a ridiculous amount of food, its about eating the right foods....

good luck..

**KimboHalfSlice** · 07-23-2009, 10:39 AM

I haven't got my PCT nailed down yet. I can get Clomid easily here, it's in the pharmacy just 5 minutes away. However if I want Nolvadex I have to do a day-trip across the border.

(Thanks for reminding me, I have to ask more questions in the thread I started about my PCT)

**Big GB4** · 07-23-2009, 10:39 AM

Not tryin to be a dick, but you should have done more research before you decided to get on steroids IMO. Also you should have prepared yourself alot more as far as you diet goes.

Your already this far into the cycle so ill just leave it at that.

If I were you I would get the extra amps and run the cycle to at least 12 weeks. As mooseman said you get your best gains from week 6-8 on, depending on the individual. The longer acting esters of the Sust will give you some nice gains. A 12 week cycle is not a LONG cycle, it is quite common and you will be fine.

**KimboHalfSlice** · 07-23-2009, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Big GB4

A 12 week cycle is not a LONG cycle, it is quite common and you will be fine.

You shouldn't have told me that... I'll be pushing for longer

**Mooseman33** · 07-23-2009, 10:53 AM

get the extra amps and spend ur 1 day trip to finish getting ur PCT....stop doing shit halfass bro...u know u should of had ur pct together before u started, therefore, get ur amps and ur pct so u will not have this problem in 4 weeks....

and get to the DIET FORUM......

**HOLLYWOOD85** · 07-23-2009, 11:34 AM

You sound a bit careless. You really should have looked into all of this alot deeper before you started a cycle.

**Parabody84** · 07-23-2009, 01:28 PM

That's not a clean diet at all better resrch ur diet if u want to keep ur results....

**playboii** · 07-23-2009, 02:26 PM

I'm 22 years old
5'3" (160 cm)
60 kg (133 lb)
Started bodybuilding 10 months ago

does anyone else see anything wrong with this besides me?!

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