Need advice on cutting/lean muscle building cycle please...

[supra669]

Stats:

Age 28
Weight 222 lbs
Height 6' 2"
BF% 19%

Experience: been lifting off and on for 3 years, lifting 5 days/week for the last 8 months.

I did two 4-week cycles of tren -acetate a earlier this year and was very pleased with the results, but looking for something different this time.

I still want to get a little bigger but main goal now is muscle definition and to lose the fat.

I have been recommended to do a tren/winny cycle, but I'm reading that may not be the best mixture...

I'm relatively a newbie to this stuff, so any constructive advice is much appreciated!

Thanks

[Matt]

Diet and cardio are the most important factors when it comes dropping bf, seems like theirs a few people doing these tren only cycles of late..

If it were me id reduce that bf to about 12/14% then id look at a test only cycle. Ive run a number of test only cycles and with a clean diet and correct pct gained alot of defined muscle..

[Hunter]

Just to explain more on what MAD MATT has already said. The higher your bf the higher risk of estrogen related sides such as gyno. Also MATT recommended a test only cycle because if you experiance sides from it you will know exactly whats causing it which is why many member encourage you only add one substance at a time.

Tren will shut you down completely, your body will no longer being producing test. There is a high chance you would suffer from sexual dysfunction. Winny is also very harsh on your lipid profile and many users complain of joint pain. I would highly recommend you drop some bf fist, as mad matt suggested then run a test only cycle, just as madd matt suggested.

[supra669]

thanks for the input guys, keep it comin!

By "test" cycle, which product are you referring to? I also did Novadex test booster on the last 2 cycles, not sure if that made a difference or not..

[RANA]

Look at the begineers cycle, Test E or Prop, your best bet would be Test E.
When you took tren did it shut you down? MADD MATT your so right about tren only cycle, is that the new thing...lol

[supra669]

The tren didn't really shut me down much, I could definitely tell it was harder to get it up, just took longer to get off that's all haha

Thats really the only side effect I noticed...

[Aizen Sosuke]

Testosterone Propionate 100mg eod
Trenbolone Acetate 100mg eod
Drostanolone Propionate 100mg eod
for 8-10 weeks follow with appropriate PCT. But i'll look into your diet first as your bf is a little high and these compounds tend to be more efficient with a lower bf and strict diet.

[redz]

Testosterone Propionate 100mg eod
Trenbolone Acetate 100mg eod
Drostanolone Propionate 100mg eod
for 8-10 weeks follow with appropriate PCT. But i'll look into your diet first as your bf is a little high and these compounds tend to be more efficient with a lower bf and strict diet.

What the hell is wrong with people he needs to cut down before cycling, simple cardio and diet not a cycle is what this guy needs.

[marcus300]

Diet and cardio are the most important factors when it comes dropping bf, seems like theirs a few people doing these tren only cycles of late..

If it were me id reduce that bf to about 12/14% then id look at a test only cycle. Ive run a number of test only cycles and with a clean diet and correct pct gained alot of defined muscle..

Agreed^^^

Drop the BF and do a Test e or similar cycle, stick with the basic's first.