400mg test/week vs 500mg test/week..... First Cycle Help

[Sauced_Up]

Ok so Ive been thinking about it hard and cant decided. I aim to start my cycle in about 3-4 weeks, depending if I want to continue dieting to loose more BF before my bulk. This will be my first test cycle. The Test-E I am getting is 300mg/cc. Im looking to only get 20cc's, preferably.

Question:
Which would you rather do?


1) 400mg/week for 15 weeks. (6000mg total out of 20cc's) / (400mg/week) = 15 weeks

or

2) 500mg/week for 12 weeks. (6000mg total out of 20cc's) / (500mg/week) = 12 weeks



I preferably would like to run the longer cycle at the lower dose, just wondering if my gains would really be effected since 500mg test is usually recommended by most of the members.


Any help is appreciated...

[BG]

I don't recomend running any longer the 12 weeks for your 1st. 400mg for 10 weeks would be fine

[Sauced_Up]

I don't recomend running any longer the 12 weeks for your 1st. 400mg for 10 weeks would be fine

Thanks for the input. But im sorry im going to have to say I wont do that. Test E from my research doesnt kick in till the 5-6th week, that would only give me 4-5 weeks to grow off the test.

Im trying to become a fitness model, and IF I can get big enough in the next 2 years (goal of 250lbs) then I will compete in NPC Southern States.

[sigman roid]

What are your stats at the moment?

[Sauced_Up]

age: 20
height: 6' 2"
weight: 216 lbs
BF: 9% (only a few more weeks of dieting, thank god)
Training: 5 years, 3 years strict dieting/working out
Goal this cycle: (will be clean bulk) Get to at least 230lbs at no higher then 10%BF


FLAME ON!!!!!

[sigman roid]

You know im gonna say your to young!! personally i would run test at 500mg for 12 weeks and make sure you have your pct sorted before you start anything

[Sauced_Up]

You know im gonna say your to young!! personally i would run test at 500mg for 12 weeks and make sure you have your pct sorted before you start anything

hahaha of course I knew you were gonna say it, but I put it up cause I want honest answers and I plan to be on this site for a long time to come. PCT is perfectly sorted out, been researching this cycle for a few months now.


if it would help, PCT will be:

2 weeks after final injection
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Liver sup: 1g a day till I run out


Edit:::: I will also be running an AI (adex) throughout my cycle at .25mg EOD starting around week 4

[Dukkit]

id say run the 400mg a week for 12 weeks

thats a normal length cycle and for your first cycle 400mg will work wonderfully if your diet and training are up to par

plus youve been dieting so your body is primed for a bulk

[sigman roid]

id say run the 400mg a week for 12 weeks

thats a normal length cycle and for your first cycle 400mg will work wonderfully if your diet and training are up to par

plus youve been dieting so your body is primed for a bulk

Dukkit get back over to the lounge and dont disagree with me...lol

Seriously Anywhere from 350-500mg for a first cycle is good so either way is fine also your pct looks good so no problem there either

[Sauced_Up]

Thanks guys,
Just wanted to get some opinions/info on the difference of 400mg to 500mg/week.


If anyone has more to input, PLEASE DO SO...

[Matt]

Well imo you far to young, however good luck and keep us posted...

[Chev]

You wont see a difference between 400 and 500 on your first cycle. You will be very pleased at 400. Trust me!

[got fina?]

I would go with the longer cycle.

Ive always gotten much better results from really low dosages, and running them long.

I always like running low dosages long cycle because i feel like the slower i grow, the more ill keep since i had less help from chemicals.

Just my opinion, good luck!!!

[c-Z]

I wouldn't exceed 12 weeks.... Especially not for a first time user. 10-12 (min/max). Why shut yourself down at such a young age even longer. Personally I would do 12. If it takes you 4-6 weeks to kick in that's half way threw.

[TITANIUM]

4oo mgs x 12 weeks. And you are too young.

[Sauced_Up]

I would go with the longer cycle.

Ive always gotten much better results from really low dosages, and running them long.

I always like running low dosages long cycle because i feel like the slower i grow, the more ill keep since i had less help from chemicals.

Just my opinion, good luck!!!

Thats similar to the mentality I have, I much rather gain incrementally over a longer period of time, instead of a huge rapid growth is much shorter time. I also feel it would be much less stressful on your body compared to the rapid gain.


Also thanks for all the other inputs above....

[.EA.]

Go with what the pros said, I have knowledge but very little experience with this stuff, but I have talked to powerlifters and a fromer IFBB pro who lives in Ottawa. I was told that after 12 weeks you may not gain too much, if any at all, and that it's a waste of gear.


But again, a long time vet could tell you more...

[JinNtonic]

My question is, if you want to grow more slowly then why not stay natty? @ 20 you have plenty of natural test to grow.

[Sauced_Up]

My question is, if you want to grow more slowly then why not stay natty? @ 20 you have plenty of natural test to grow.

I should have explained it more, to get to where I wana be I cant be natty, I want to compete in the next 2 years and do fitness modeling. Natty gains are very slow, approx 1-1.5lbs a month, when I was talkin about gaining slowly it dealt with gear, I meant that id rather put on say 2-3lbs a week for 10 weeks compared to 5-6lbs a week in 5 weeks.

[JinNtonic]

OIC, Well They say Anavar puts on lean muscle that is not as fast as test but you keep most of your gain & drop BF...

[BG]

But im sorry im going to have to say I wont do that. Test E from my research doesnt kick in till the 5-6th week, that would only give me 4-5 weeks to grow off the test.

LMAO, from my EXPERIENCE you don't grow after 12 weeks, gains stop.

[peachfuzz]

LMAO, from my EXPERIENCE you don't grow after 12 weeks, gains stop.

Touche

[Sauced_Up]

LMAO, from my EXPERIENCE you don't grow after 12 weeks, gains stop.

Ok I can appreciate that input since I truly dont have any experience in injectables and research can only go so far as to learning something.

Question: Do you literally mean gains completely stop? or they start to noticeably subside???

[Sauced_Up]

Ok so going with the better judgment of others with experience in this, Ive decided to run my cycle for only 12 weeks. I will run it at 500mg/week (which is the standard first cycle across the board), might as well use the extra cc's thatd be left from only running 400mg.



Thanks for all the input guys

[Tigershark]

Too young man.