Heya guys i have a problem

[Navy-boi-kai]

So guys Yesterday i was called into Command Post yesterday for weight check and taping. In febuary is said i weighed 180 at 70 inches tall!!! So yesterday I weighed 206 without clothes and was taped my neck is 16 1/2 inches they taped around my belly button at 39 inches. They used the Chart to do BF percentage and said it read exactly 25 which i believe is wrong. So anyways Im on cycle week 6 rite now at 400 mgs of test a week and 400 mgs of deca !! Im trying to figyre out on how to get to 15 percent in the nxt 2 months guys!! So im here ask for helo from all of you! I will lay out diet all stats even routine if ya guys could helo me plse so much!!! If not i will be put on medical leave until they deem me "FIT" to be in the NAVY!!

Im 20 yrs old

weight 205ish

Plse help very much needed and willing to do whatever you suggest!!!

[G4R]

So you are about 5'9, 205(ish) lbs? Now, did they use callipers to calculate BF%, or was it just a standard BMI chart?

Also, if you are wanting to cut weight, a Test and Deca cycle is not going to help.

What does your diet look like in detail?

[D7M]

military uses a stupid chart, no calipers.

yah, let's see the diet.

how long is your cycle?

[Navy-boi-kai]

just standard BMI chart!!!!
I will post my diet up sec

[Navy-boi-kai]

its 16 weeks ok test at 400 mgs and 14 weeks of 400 mgs of deca a week

[feeldapump89]

I never would have figured so many men in the military use steroids . They dont test you for such substances?

[D7M]

I'm trying to figure it out...will you be in pct the next time you get taped?

[D7M]

I never would have figured so many men in the military use steroids. They dont test you for such substances?

very, very rarely.

[Matt]

Sounds like your carring alot of bf lol, 39 inch waist is big...

[Navy-boi-kai]

no due to the the stress they turn blind

[Matt]

I'm trying to figure it out...will you be in pct the next time you get taped?

At his bf it may be an idea to stop his cycle now, diet and cardio should do it...

[D7M]

no due to the the stress they turn blind

wtf?

[Navy-boi-kai]

they usaully dont test

[Navy-boi-kai]

And for pct i have both clomid and Nolva
pallned pct it

100/100/50/50
40/40/20/20

[G4R]

wtf?

I think he is addressing feeldapumps statement about testing for steroids , saying, "no (they do not test often), due to the stress (hecktic lifestyle), they turn a blind eye"

Right?

[Matt]

What test is it lol???

[D7M]

At his bf it may be an idea to stop his cycle now, diet and cardio should do it...

actually I tend to agree....

I just saw his pics in his cycle log.

[Navy-boi-kai]

thats right

[Navy-boi-kai]

granted those pics are from week three

[D7M]

right. I'm not knocking your physique, bro.

but if your military career is important to you,

you might need to reconsider your cycle.

[Navy-boi-kai]

and it is very important bro!!! I willing to do what ev you guys think!! Should i drop deca run just test and do low carbs!! Really is up to u guys im here to ask your help not other way around so all is very much apprciated!!!! But here is my thing to say im 25 percent bf is saying im carriing over 50 lbs of fat and i dont believe i am!!!

[area547]

Hey bro I'm an assistant CFL in the Navy. Per regulation we can not use a tape (neck and waist) as a definitive means of calculating your body fat percentage. You have the right to request another means of figuring out a body fat % is.

[HIITB$]

actually I tend to agree....

I just saw his pics in his cycle log.

At his bf it may be an idea to stop his cycle now, diet and cardio should do it...

right. I'm not knocking your physique, bro.

but if your military career is important to you,

you might need to reconsider your cycle.

I remember you from your frist post. Everyone told you werent ready for a cycle and you had a long ways to go naturally. I 39 in waist is BIG man...IMO

You should drop the deca ad an AI like letro (ramp up) get rid of some of that water weight and add T3 and cardio of course this is all presuming you're diet is already on point.
In the military you fail couple of these and they dont put you on medical hold they KICK you OUT!!!

Whats your max weight for your height?

edit and clen

[HIITB$]

Hey bro I'm an assistant CFL in the Navy. Per regulation we can not use a tape (neck and waist) as a definitive means of calculating your body fat percentage. You have the right to request another means of figuring out a body fat % is.

Im ex military (not long ago) and was a CFL not assistant and you have the tape and thats it. YOu can pass your physical fitness test then petitoin the CO to let you stay in or not go on the fat boys program but couple Fails after the fat boy program and you WILL get the boot with an admin separation.

[Immortal Soldier]

Sounds like your carring alot of bf lol, 39 inch waist is big...

xxxx2

For real man, waist size can be indicative of high bf%. I am close to how much you weigh and have a 31-32 inch waist.


Plus why are you cycling at 20 years old? Especially if you are in the Navy. Are you a sailor or in the marines?

[lovbyts]

Yup, 39 is BIG, I'm 5' 8" and my waist is 30.

[feeldapump89]

very, very rarely.

Wow I always thought they would be all over that kinda stuff but apparently i am wrong lol.

[Navy-boi-kai]

not just cuz you wear size 30 or 31 pants doesnt man ur waist is that size remember that! it a measure around ur naval in the miltary big difference. It gets ****ed up if your have ate previous to the taping!!!

[Navy-boi-kai]

so add t3 or clen and kee pthe test and drop deca rite?

[Immortal Soldier]

not just cuz you wear size 30 or 31 pants doesnt man ur waist is that size remember that! it a measure around ur naval in the miltary big difference. It gets ****ed up if your have ate previous to the taping!!!

Yeah unless you add 8 inches to your stomach after you eat, you don't have an excuse. Lay off the twinkies, your 20 years old and have a waist of an aging 50 year old couch potato.

BTW-Measuring myself around my naval instead of a inch lower doesn't make much of a difference if any at all.

[Navy-boi-kai]

any more ideas guys?

[lovbyts]

any more ideas guys?

I take it you havent heard what you want to hear yet so you are looking for someone to tell you what you want to hear so it will all be good? You already got some good advise. Get in shape naturally first before considering doing another cycle or adding anything to it. Instead of trying to find what you can add/take why not focus on diet and exercise.

[Navy-boi-kai]

not at all true lovebyts just trying to get a general consensus among everyone of what i should do!!! Some say keep the test add clen and t3 some says stop do pct cut naturally!!! So just getting ideas from everyone. Trust me its not that im getting what i dont wana hear or everything will be good cuz its not good!! So all advice is welcome just want to get as many ideas as posible form JBM you tmos all the vets.

[Immortal Soldier]

not at all true lovebyts just trying to get a general consensus among everyone of what i should do!!! Some say keep the test add clen and t3 some says stop do pct cut naturally!!! So just getting ideas from everyone. Trust me its not that im getting what i dont wana hear or everything will be good cuz its not good!! So all advice is welcome just want to get as many ideas as posible form JBM you tmos all the vets.

How long do you have to drop weight?

Clen is useless if your diet sucks, Twinkies Toes.

[HIITB$]

How long do you have to drop weight?

Clen is useless if your diet sucks, Twinkies Toes.

this x2
Basically what everyone is telling you that there is no miracle drug that will help and your diet is not good. You should prolly stop all the AAS and PCT and get your diet together and cut. Once you get going and down to like a 32 waist and you've been lifting for a while and gaining MUSCLE then do AAS later when you're actually ready.

[lovbyts]

not at all true lovebyts just trying to get a general consensus among everyone of what i should do!!! Some say keep the test add clen and t3 some says stop do pct cut naturally!!! So just getting ideas from everyone. Trust me its not that im getting what i dont wana hear or everything will be good cuz its not good!! So all advice is welcome just want to get as many ideas as posible form JBM you tmos all the vets.

Point taken, yes it can be confusing when so many people are telling you to do/try different things.

It might be a while before JBM chimes in, he has been busy with the new Baby and has not been seen/heard from for a few days.

[banthar]

There is always the crack diet. hehe

[Navy-boi-kai]

yea im just trying to get as much help as i can guys u know!!! Lovebyts pm gota question to ask ya man?

[lovbyts]

I dont see it yet? You must be a S L O W typer. LOL

[Immortal Soldier]

I dont see it yet? You must be a S L O W typer. LOL

It's hard to type when you got a twinkie in one hand and a cheeseburger in the other.