what to do now

**tosmall** · 12-19-2002, 10:36 PM

neither of my supp's has any nolva or clomid for about a month now..i've been putting of my cycle until I can get some, but it doesn't look good at this point..what the fuck it used to be so easy to get.. was there some kind of big crack down on clomid and nolva that I didn't hear about..ok my question is, is there anything else that can be taken post cycle besides the usual anti E's.....thanks guys

**BigMike J** · 12-19-2002, 10:40 PM

Damn is it really that hard to get clomid?

**MBaraso** · 12-19-2002, 10:40 PM

Nothing really can take the place of clomid. I would wait till you can get it cuz if you start your cycle and something happens and you don't get it....Your pretty much fucked.

**Jack87** · 12-19-2002, 10:51 PM

2 options....

You can mega dose tribestan post cycle at around 2000mg a day for 3 to 4 weeks and spend a fortune doing so...

Or you can continue to look for a source that has clomid available...

Maybe if you had some more posts under your belt some bros would be quicker to help you out... maybe

**tosmall** · 12-19-2002, 11:10 PM

I've seen a few people on other boards that say that can't find any right now to..well i guess I'm shit out of luck at least for now...I'm dying to start becuse this will be the first time using upjohn test instead of the usual mex stuff..

**tosmall** · 12-19-2002, 11:30 PM

tribestan

**Jack87** · 12-19-2002, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by tosmall
tribestan

Sopharma of Bulgaria Tribestan

**New GearGuy** · 12-20-2002, 08:26 AM

Whats Clomid? What is it used for at the end of the cycle??

**Big "D" Daddy** · 12-20-2002, 08:37 AM

try search bro

**DOUGTM1SS** · 12-21-2002, 07:33 PM

I got my clomid no problem, bro, and I'm just finishing my post cycle.
maybe when u order your gear order clomid & nolvadex at the sametime.

**Biznatch** · 12-21-2002, 07:52 PM

New GearGuy, I guess that explains the "New"

I'll let someone with more patience answer that question.

**Mastiff** · 12-21-2002, 09:22 PM

NewGearGuy, this is from the drug profiles on this site. It would probably help if you read the profiles, it would give you some idea of what we are talking about. The educational forum is a good read, too.

CLOMID Substance: clomiphene citrate
Trade Names:
Ardomon 50 mg tab.; Med-Hel GR
Clom 50 (o.c) 50 mg tab.; Salutas G
Clomid 50 mg tab.; Merell Dow B,CH,U.S.; Merell FR,GB;Lepetit I; Haus
Clomifen 25 mg cap.; Lab Casen ES
Clomifen 50 mg tab.; Leiras F1
C.-ratioph. (o.c) 50 mg tab.; Ratiopharm G
Clomiphen Citrate 50 mg tab.; Anfarm GR
Clomiphen-Merck 50 mg tab.; Merck A
Clomipheni citras 50 mg tab.; Centrafarm NL
Clomivid 50 mg tab.; Draco DK, 5
Clostilbegyt 50 mg tab.; Egis HU, Bulgaria
Clostilbegyt 50 mg tab.; Medphano G
Clostilbegyt (o.0 G 50 mg tab.; Med Pharm G, Thiemann
Dufine 50 mg tab.; Inibsa PT
Dyneric 50 mg tab.; Marion Merrell Dow G
Gravosan 50 mg tab.; Leciva CZ
Indovar 50 mg tab.; Jaba PT
Klomifen 50 mg tab.; Belupo YU; Mulda TK; Yurtoglu TK
Kyliformon 50 mg tab.; Kylifor GR
Omifin 50 mg tab.; Merrell ES, Mexico
Pergotime 50 mg tab.; Icapharm S; Serono G, DK, F9, Serono/Zyma-Golen Be
Pioner 50 mg tab.; Remedina GR
Prolifen 50 mg tab.; Chiesi I
Serofene 50 mg tab.; Serono Argentina, Mexico
Serophene 50 mg tab.; Interlabo CH; Pharma-Im- port NL; Serono GB, U.S.,
Serpafar 50 mg tab.; Faran GR, BG
Tokormon 50 mg tab.; Genepharm GR

Clomid is not an anabolic /androgenic steroid . Since it is a synthetic estrogen it belongs, however, to the group of sex hormones. In school medicine Clomid is normally used to trigger ovulation. Clomid also has a strong influence on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis. It stimulates the hypo-physis to release more gonadotropin so that a faster and higher re-lease of FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) and LH (luteinizing hor-mone) occurs. This results in an elevated endogenous (body's own) testosterone level. Clomid is especially effective when the body's own testosterone production, due to the intake of anabolic/androgenic steroids , is suppressed. In most cases Clomid can normalize the tes-tosterone level and the spermatogenesis (sperm development) within 10- 14 days. For this reason Clomid is primarily taken after steroids are discontinued. At this time it is extremely important to bring the testosterone production to a normal level as quickly as possible so that the loss of strength and muscle mass is minimized. Even better results can be achieved if Clomid is combined with HCG or when Clomid is used after the intake of HCG.

Paradoxically, although Clomid is a synthetic estrogen it also works as an antiestrogen. The reason is that Clomid has only a very low estrogenic effect and thus the stronger estrogens which, for example, form during the aromatization of steroids, are blocked at the recep-tors. These would include those that develop during the aromatiz-ing of steroids. This does not prevent the steroids from aromatizing but the increased estrogen is mostly deactivated since it cannot at-tach to the receptors. The increased water retention and the possible signs of feminization can thus be reduced or even completely avoided. Since the antiestrogenic effect of Clomid is lower than those found in Proviron , Nolvadex , and Teslac it is mainly taken as a testosterone stimulant. Clomid is a medica-tion that promotes the production of the body's own stimulating hormone, gonadotropin, which in turn increases the testosterone level. It is, for example, administered to women as a so-called antiestrogen to trigger ovulation ("ovulation stimulator").

Side effects of Clomid are very rare if reasonable dosages are taken. Possible side effects are climacteric hot flashes and occasional visual disturbances which can manifest themselves in blurred vision, giv-ing flickering or flashing. Should visual disturbances occur, the manufacturer recommends discontinuing Clomid treatment. Inad-equate liver functions cannot be excluded; however, they are very unlikely. In women enlargement of the ovaries and abdominal pain can occur since Clomid stimulates the ovaries. When taking Clomid multiple pregnancies are possible as well. As for the dosage, 50-100 mg/day (1 -2 tablets) seems to be sufficient. The tablets are usually taken with fluids after meals. If several tablets are taken it is recom-mended that they be administered in equal doses distributed through-out the day. The duration of intake has been rummored to not be taken for longer thatn 10-14 days. This is incorrect. Clinical studies with male patients have shown clomid to be used for up to a year or longer. Most athletes begin with 100 mg/day, taking one 5 0 mg tablet ev-ery morning and evening after meals. After the fifth day the dosage is often reduced to only one 50 mg tablet per day It is normally not necessary to take the compound for more than ten days in order to increase the endogenous testosterone production. Clomid is relatively expensive. A package with 10 tablets costs approx. $35 - 45 on the black market.